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Posted by FR_Joystik_CDT Posts 2 Registered at 2009-07-04 13:43:49	2011-06-21 15:41:16 - Perf on Texel Race
	I know very well the F18 boats. I have raced on them many times (and won races . It does not take 2 minutes to be at 100% after starting or jibing ! Here it takes hours !! Thanks Fr Joystik --- Last Edited by hervé caron at 2011-06-21 16:01:59 ---
Posted by Arthur Posts 32 Registered at 2008-12-23 14:43:47	2011-06-21 20:13:37 - Re: Perf on Texel Race
	Experienced the same things, but I'm soooo happy to have this race in SOL! But I don't think that performance drop is very unreal. After tacking/gybing we have to build up the flow (in sails and along the daggerboards/rudders) and pressure again. I think 1 to 2 minutes is pretty realistic, taking in account the preparation before the tack/gybe. Now that I tried a test run, in 18 kts of wind, I see your point... Takes a very long time to get back to 100%... hmmm Arthur --- Last Edited by Arthur at 2011-06-21 20:17:55 --- --- Last Edited by Arthur at 2011-06-21 21:30:51 --- If you're still in control, you're not going fast enough.
Posted by 76Trombones Posts 362 Registered at 2009-08-03 18:04:56	2011-06-21 21:38:54 - Re: Perf on Texel Race
	I think we just have to treat it as a correction factor for the speed of the boats overall. This race should not have too many unnecessary tacks, and everyone will make more or less the same turns. Consider the perf hit to be congestion at the marks or a particularly bad stretch of surf!
Posted by Arthur Posts 32 Registered at 2008-12-23 14:43:47	2011-06-21 22:02:31 - Re: Perf on Texel Race
	I'm very ok with it, and I presume perf.loss will be much less radical in lighter airs. If we take into account the behaviour of these boats in heavy winds/choppy waters, I think an overall performance of >90% is pretty good. Cheers If you're still in control, you're not going fast enough.
Posted by 76Trombones Posts 362 Registered at 2009-08-03 18:04:56	2011-06-21 22:27:10 - Re: Perf on Texel Race
	Yup - agree completely! For those not in on the race planning for this one - our polar is straight out of Jakob's IMSYC VPP with pretty major modifications to try to sneak a multihull through. The limiting factors for multihulls are righting and pithing moments. The numbers are mathematically pure steady state and don't take into account waves, gusts, human reflexes or trying desperately to not get washed off a multi doing 20+knots through surf! 10-15% off the top in those conditions is perfectly fair, and if you mess up at a mark and have to throw a couple of extra manoevers in I bet you'd lose a whole lot more IRL in a fleet this size! Total mayhem! haha The practice race today was fun to watch. These are fast boats, and you got a real feel for that watching the pixels creep around the course! 76T
Posted by ShamrockPirate Posts 189 Registered at 2010-12-03 17:49:57	2011-06-22 00:20:02 - Re: Perf on Texel Race
	Outstanding Disappointment The perf loss was nothing compared to being on a pretty good timed run and the entire SOL server goes "toes up"... was trying to beat Chila's time! ". No commands, no weather, nuthin'!! Could not get into the Neufie race either. Reset everything, cleared the caches and rebooted and still nothing. By now, I'm almost to Rotterdam "but making good time!" Aarrgghh! SP
Posted by ShamrockPirate Posts 189 Registered at 2010-12-03 17:49:57	2011-06-22 00:44:18 - Re: Perf on Texel Race
	Have tried everything I know. Can not get into any races. Please mark me as "retired" or DNS for all until further notice. This HAS to be something on my end and NOT a SOL problem as I can still post to the Forum. Will keep trying but if I can't get it fixed... it was fun while it lasted. Best to all and fair winds. Aarrgghh! SP
Posted by 76Trombones Posts 362 Registered at 2009-08-03 18:04:56	2011-06-22 00:48:57 - Re: Perf on Texel Race
	You can load the race but no weather/fleet etc shoes up? I think that's the symptom we had with DNS loss. This is the fix that saved North America last time around - good luck!!!: Hard to say how localised this is, but it looks like Ottawa at least is having trouble finding SOL again. The same fix as last time works - on windows machines: Go to c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc there should be a file there called "hosts" with NO extension right click it and open-with ... notepad add these two lines: 62.181.230.173 race.sailport.se 62.181.230.171 www.sailonline.org restart It's a good idea to remove these two lines once they are no longer needed, which can be done by adding # to the beginning of each line: # 62.181.230.173 race.sailport.se # 62.181.230.171 www.sailonline.org
Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2011-06-23 15:59:02 - Re: Perf on Texel Race
	76T - I have emailed that on to ShamPir in case he doesn't check back for a while. I also said: "A couple of times I have had issues with the Flash client not loading for me one thing has nearly always fixed it for me, and that is checking that my Flash version is up to date. Its very simple to do - just right-click on the (empty) SOL game screen and following the instructions if a newer version of Flash is offered." just in case that might also help!! Hopefully ShamPir will be back soon!
Posted by ShamrockPirate Posts 189 Registered at 2010-12-03 17:49:57	2011-06-24 01:49:55 - Re: Perf on Texel Race
	Withdrawal Averted!!! Thanks 76 and RC! I messed around with everything and it looks like it popped back on it's own! I'll try to save the instruction if this disaster should ever befall me again. I was ready to go to plan "B"....just pick up and move to Sailport's lobby! Thanks again and see you in Texel! SP

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