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Board » General Discussion » Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009

Posted by latenitec1 Posts 6 Registered at 2009-02-23 05:14:56	2009-08-11 00:02:33 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
	RainbowChaser: I agree with you 100%. I understand RORC's need to protect names, etc. But when I found out they were taking money from VR. Your letter pointed out many of the things I don't like about VR and pointed a few things that I hadn't been able to quite verbalize yet. I Hope you don't mind, I posted a copy of this letter on Sailing Anarchy I know a few anarchists are using SOL also --- Last Edited by Bob Kasischke at 2009-08-11 00:08:14 --- --- Last Edited by RainbowChaser at 2012-01-14 12:12:03 ---
Posted by Eddie C. Dost Posts 57 Registered at 2008-08-23 11:40:29	2009-08-11 03:09:54 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
	Thank you, RainbowChaser. You put into words what I was feeling when I saw the course change and put my boat on TWA=0. Thank you, hats off to you. _/)_/)_/) The sea is lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to sail before I sleep, And miles to sail before I sleep.
Posted by Zembu Posts 41 Registered at 2008-12-15 20:58:27	2009-08-11 19:27:56 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
	Well done Rainbowchaser. I also sent an email to RORC via their website - but nothing much compared to yours - as follows; This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.rorc.org/ from: Andrew Cormie <andrew@zembu.plus.com> I'd like to know what are your grounds for objection against Sail Online (SOL), resulting in your action in sending them a solicitor's letter. Your action has caused trouble for several hundred people engaged in an innocent activity which was not causing you any problem. HAVE OF COURSE HAD NO REPLY.
Posted by Exmeromotu Posts 71 Registered at 2008-12-10 15:22:17	2009-08-11 23:06:33 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
	Everybody, Those of us that did VORG and other races with VR remember to ask for your account to be deleted. Even if we are not playing they use the account for their PR purposes. Go to the Support part of the forum and ask for removal. You should get back something like this: [#ARG-292402]: SUPPORT VG VIRTUEL - SOL - Insc‏ From: Support VIRTUAL REGATTA (support@virtualregatta.com) Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:21:34 AM To: exmeromotu_@hotmail.com Hello, You have been removed from our database. Best regards, -- Support Virtual Regatta. support@virtualregatta.com Détails du billet =================== Code d'identification du billet: ARG-292402 Département: VR - La solitaire 2009 Priorité: Normal Statut: Closed That was the fastest and only reply I got from them.!! The account got deleted almost 48 hours after I asked them to do so!! BTW great job RC I guess nobody could've said it better! Regards, Antonio Marí
Posted by windward2 Posts 1 Registered at 2009-08-06 18:44:33	2009-08-12 21:30:01 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
	Well put RC, bull's eye! I am also amazed that RORC has chosen VR to team up with just for the money. VR is a joke compared to SoL. However, my advise to the developers (being over 60yrs of age) will be to concentrate on the commercial and legal aspects a.w.a. the technical aspects in which they are doing a great job. I make the comparison between Apple and Microsoft (I hope no one gets offended), although Apple had the technical edge and had (and still has) better technology, MS was much more successful commercially & legally (!). Unfortunately, the world is not what it used to be and sentiments (honour, fair-play, etc.) of RC's email are replaced by greed, flexing muscles (legally not literally) etc. I do not want to discourage the developers but to warn them against bullies who may want to run down the good work they have done. I hope that RC's message gets through to RORC and the matter goes away without hurting SoL...
Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2009-08-12 22:01:58 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
	Just an update for everyone before I turn in. No feedback, no reply, niente, nada, absolutely zilch from RORC. On the basis that everyone may be focused on the race itself down at Race HQ in Cowes, I have printed off a copy of my email and sent it with a compliments slip by post to Commodore McIrvine at RORC HQ in London.
Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2009-08-21 15:46:10 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
	Just to keep this current. As at now, 1644hrs BST on Friday, 21 August 2009, I have received no response from RORC. Because the original email was submitted via the online form I have the incoming acknowledgement from that, so I know my email was received in the organisation. Has anyone who communicated with RORC heard anything back?
Posted by Eddie C. Dost Posts 57 Registered at 2008-08-23 11:40:29	2009-08-21 16:11:44 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
	Same here, no reply to my e-mail. _/)_/)_/) The sea is lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to sail before I sleep, And miles to sail before I sleep.
Posted by Gull Posts 2 Registered at 2009-06-21 11:37:19	2009-08-21 18:41:03 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
	Eddie C. Dost said @ 2009-08-21 16:11:44: Same here, no reply to my e-mail. Même chose : pas de réponse. La même que Exmermotu : vous êtes supprimés de Virtual Regatta. ........... et je m'en fou : lol !
Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2009-08-24 08:53:46 - Reply from Commodore McIrvine RORC
	OK all.. prepare to be surprised!! I have now received an email from Commodore McIrvine, from his private email address, as follows: QUOTE Dear XXXXX Thank you for your email dated 10 August which arrived while I was at sea, participating in the Rolex Fastnet Race. RORC has nothing against Sailonline.com or the virtual races which it organises; however, RORC has every right to protect on its behalf and on behalf of its sponsors the name and concept of the Rolex Fastnet Race. Sailonline.com sought to exploit that name and concept without even approaching RORC to seek consent. It is only right that Sailonline.com should not mimic the Rolex Fastnet Race without RORC's consent. Requiring Sailonline.com to desist from that does not and will not prevent you and other virtual offshore racers enjoying the challenge of racing with Sailonline.com but you must do so on your own races and not those in which others have proprietary interests, unless they agree that you may. Yours sincerely Andrew J McIrvine Commodore Royal Ocean Racing Club 20 St James's Place London SW1AA iNN UNQUOTE

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