Facebook

Login

Support Sailonline

If you haven't already - join the SAILONLINE YACHT CLUB!

Please also consider making a donation - all amounts are greatly appreciated!

Board » Technical Support » Dutch chat room

Page: 1 2 Next

Posted by
dikkehenk


Users avatar

Posts
66
Registered at
2012-02-24 15:03:37
2014-12-07 11:14:09 - Dutch chat room
Hello there. Is it possible to create a Dutch chat channel? ? Thanx.

Posted by
Patrick


Users avatar

Posts
1
Registered at
2014-10-11 07:20:42
2014-12-07 11:22:44 - Re: Dutch chat room
I want to support Dikkehenk on this one. Half of Belgium speaks Dutch too.
Thanks
Posted by
kroppyer


Users avatar

Posts
347
Registered at
2010-02-05 15:25:55
2014-12-07 13:25:44 - Re: Dutch chat room
As discussed in the chat, I think a Dutch chatroom will be needed when other, non-Dutch speakers suffer from the amount of Dutch activity in the English chatroom. So as long as there is no dutch chatroom, just talk Dutch in the English chatroom, no one seems to have a problem with it. A Dutch chatroom is more of a service to non-Dutch speakers than to the Dutch.

Historically, I think a sudden increase of <insert language>-speakers have increased the chances of a <insert language>-chat.

Just in case, here's a Dutch translation for the welcome messages:

Welkom aan iedereen nieuw op Sailonline.

Als u vragen heeft, vraagt u gerust. Iedereen hier is zeer behulpzaam.
---
Als u niet direct een antwoord krijgt, probeert u dan de in Engelse chat, eventueel zelfs in het Nederlands.
---
CHAT: Sailonline is een kindvriendelijke website, dus gedraagt u zich alstublieft op een manier gepast voor alle leeftijden. U kunt uw chatrecht verliezen als u zich hier niet aan houdt.
===

Verbeteringen zijn welkom.
Posted by
RainbowChaser


Users avatar

Posts
2656
Registered at
2009-06-14 09:44:50
2014-12-07 14:15:46 - Re: Dutch chat room
When I joined Sailonline there was only one chatroom and it was amazingly chaotic with lots of different languages being spoken!! I loved it as I felt I was sort-of acquiring language-skill without trying and it made Sailonline really feel a global place!!

It was then decided to split up the chat into different rooms and... this was done by those who ran Sailonline at that time on a language basis, choosing languages chiefly where folks aren't that fluent in English (or dislike speaking it).

The "names" of rooms can of course be changed and I've often thought it would be neat to have a split not by name of language but by name of ocean ... or famous explorer/sailor - then if people want to speak in their own language at length, then they could hang out in the room of their chosen hero!

Since 2010, I have been helping with Sailonline Admin, and during that time there have been almost tidal sweeps of different nationalities and as economy and life and the world turns, so these "tides" move on and change.

Right now, at race close, there are rooms that, race after race, see nothing but the sailonline welcome message.

That's daft and, frankly, without an Admin speaking or monitoring chat in the different language rooms, it occurs to me that anything could be said there without Sailonline Management knowledge/awareness!

I would like there to be fewer rooms with none of the language restrictions we have at present.

The English room could stay as it is OR be renamed "General" or "Lobby" or something suitably nautical and would remain, the first room people find when they click on the chat tab.

There are so many languages it is truly not possible to have a room for each ... but it is wrong that some people almost feel let-down in some way because right now they don't have a language room of their own.

Let's think outside the box!!

:-)

________________

--- Last Edited by RainbowChaser at 2014-12-07 14:16:43 ---
Posted by
Rod


Users avatar

Posts
392
Registered at
2010-06-24 22:30:48
2014-12-07 16:15:54 - Re: Dutch chat room
One aspect that should be considered is that many, particularly English speakers, do not have other languages. I have had courses in Latin, Greek, French, German, and Russian, and also live in a bilingual country, yet have never lived in any place that required a second language.
Perhaps a computer translation facility should be considered, so that SOLer's contributions in other languages may be readily translated into the language desired by any SOLer, so that we all may be 'up-to-date' about the SOL conversations. That way, no SOLer would feel 'excluded' from the Chat Room.
If it breaks, it's not strong enough--if it doesn't, it's too heavy.
Posted by
Dana1


Users avatar

Posts
23
Registered at
2012-09-26 17:33:43
2014-12-07 18:41:28 - Re: Dutch chat room
I think the Dutch speakers deserve their own chat area. They are much more active than some other ones.Like RC said, some of the different language chats are never used.
Posted by
kroppyer


Users avatar

Posts
347
Registered at
2010-02-05 15:25:55
2014-12-07 19:26:33 - Re: Dutch chat room
I agree with RC: It's not really possible to keep the number of chatrooms limited when we associate a chatroom with a language. There are far too much languages, and the frequency of their use changes far too much (can even be race specific).

A solution like RC suggests, renaming all/most chatrooms to break the direct association with a language works, but has some problems (I think):
- It requires more searching through chatrooms to find fellow country members or friends (esp. for newbies)
- It scatters all the activity over far too much chatrooms (simply solved by removing chatrooms).

It would be nice if the names of the chatrooms (apart from the main chatroom) could be variable, so that the ones using the chatroom can give it a name (examples: "Nederlands", "Practice race", "NO F1 results!", "BWR"), until they become inactive again.
But much like Rods suggestion (including a translation facility), this might be a tad too much work to implement.
Posted by
dikkehenk


Users avatar

Posts
66
Registered at
2012-02-24 15:03:37
2014-12-07 20:49:12 - Re: Dutch chat room
Hi there. I appriciate all the thoughts about who thinks why yes and why no, especially those who do not speak Dutch. (?)
The question is simple, can it be done ? Me think there are enough Dutch for a simple local chat.
So..can it be done, yes or no ?
Another thing, it is not considered polite where i live to talk a different language in for example a English chatroom.

Thank you


Ps. ( hint ) This post has many edits, since i'm no native English writer.
--- Last Edited by dikkehenk at 2014-12-07 20:49:25 ---

--- Last Edited by dikkehenk at 2014-12-07 20:51:26 ---

--- Last Edited by dikkehenk at 2014-12-07 20:52:03 ---

--- Last Edited by dikkehenk at 2014-12-07 20:53:09 ---

--- Last Edited by dikkehenk at 2014-12-07 20:55:39 ---

--- Last Edited by dikkehenk at 2014-12-07 20:55:57 ---
Posted by
dikkehenk


Users avatar

Posts
66
Registered at
2012-02-24 15:03:37
2014-12-07 21:28:10 - Re: Dutch chat room
Another small hint, the Greek room ( apperantly the Greek speak less well English, or sail better ) is empty from the day i came here.
Might be me, but what if you just change the name to Dutch?

If all this is a budget thing, please tell me what the cost will be. Being a shareholder i will be very happy to pay that invoice, and show people some very simple Customer-service. :)

--- Last Edited by dikkehenk at 2014-12-07 21:28:28 ---
Posted by
iod


Users avatar

Posts
5
Registered at
2009-02-27 23:33:43
2014-12-07 22:27:18 - Re: Dutch chat room
Some might say let's create an Esperanto or Interlingua room, this would solve the languages problem ;)

Page: 1 2 Next

Please login to post a reply.

Races

Next Race: 00d 00h 00m

Current Races:

Sinbad by Balloon 2025 - Carnarvon to Dondra


From here, our home in Bharatavarṣa is now north west of us – said Sinbad to his fellow balloonists. Perhaps we can ride the wind first further north, and then catch the winds that every year bring the rain, perhaps not. It’s 2600nm and we could be aloft awhile, so, Master el-Quarters, victuals only, no sandbags, provisioning the giant hamper. It will be not a picnic!
Race #1886
INFOby brainaid.de
SOL Balloon PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC - SBB
Race starts: Oct 15th 11:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Alicante TIMED Race 2025

Welcome to beautiful Alicante on Spain’s Costa Blanca. Dine on some local tapas and paella before racing your America’s Cup foiling winged-sail AC72 catamaran on this 208nm race out to and around Isla de Formentera returning to Alicante after rounding the mark at Cap de la Nau. There should be some very fast times! This is a TIMEDrace so you may RE-REGISTER HEREto try again after finishing a run. You will have 13 days and 11 hours to test your skill and decision making after the race opens.
Race #1958
INFOby brainaid.de
AC72v2 Particulars
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
TRQ4 - TRCH - SUPSOL - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Saturday,
25 October at 23:00 UTC
Race starts: Oct 12th 12:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Marion Island to Fernando de Noronha 2025

The adventure continues as we launch the next to last leg of the RWW series. This leg takes us from Marion Island to Fernando de Noronha, an island in the world heritage archipelago with the same name, 220 nm off the coast of Brazil. This race doubles up as #7 of RWW and #10 of OCCH. A 4400 nm journey of endurance, strategy and pure adrenaline. The RWW series is as whole, part of the 2025 ocean championship. Get ready for this exhilarating challenge as we set sail on the third to last leg of the 2025 Ocean Championship Series! This leg will be raced aboard the Judel Vrolijk 62, pushing sailors to their limits as they navigate the open ocean. Do you have what it takes to conquer the Southern Atlantic? Join us and put your skills to the ultimate test!
PRIZE: SMPF
Race #1955
INFO by brainaid.de
JV 62 PARTICULARS    
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230    
Ranking: OCQ4 - RWW - OCCH - SUPSOL - SYC
Race starts: Oct 06th 11:00 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Camel or Balloon - Khartoum to N'Djamena


As there is a lull in the calendar, your PRO has decided to risk an experiment – a balloon race over land, using a workaround to eliminate the recognition of water/land transitions. If it fails, the server may crash, and we abandon PDQ, hopefully after leg 7 of the ABS race to Suez has been decided, and before the start of the 1st OCC of Q4. Camel or Balloon – c 1000 nm from a field on the north bank of the Blue Nile at Khartoum to a field on the north bank of the Chari River at N'Djamena!
Race #1956
INFOby brainaid.de
SOL Balloon PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: none
RACE CLOSE: Sunday,
October 26 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Sep 28th 09:00 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Go to race archive

SYC Ranking

  1. Sailonline Yacht Club Member vida
  2. Sailonline Yacht Club Member WRmirekd
  3. Sailonline Yacht Club Member KaSToR
  4. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CriticalHippo
  5. Sailonline Yacht Club Member rafa
  6. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Kipper1258
  7. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CollegeFund
  8. Sailonline Yacht Club Member BRENTGRAY
  9. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Sax747
  10. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Panpyc

View full list

Series

Mobile Client

SYC members have the benefit of access to our mobile/lightweight web client!

The mobile client