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Name	kroppyer
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2020-06-19 11:31:23

Re: How to make Notes tab visible

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The notes are stored locally, in you computer within your browser even. You will need to use the exact same browser and computer and client in order to access the notes.

So, if you are on iPad, there is no way to get the to the notes you made on your computer. I don't think the HTML5 client has this functionality to take notes, since its use is rather limited as you just discovered.
2020-06-12 22:32:54

Re: Public testing new HTML5 client

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A new version was published just now. In general, updates may come unannounced as long as we are in the development stage. Below is some information on what to do if an update does not work for you.

There are three versions of the client: normal, dev and old. The last two are available if you append "?version=dev" and "?version=old" to the url. Normal is available as usual, without appending anything to the url.
The dev version is regularly updated and used for testing. It will likely contain new features, but also new bugs.
The normal version is only updated occasionally and should be mostly free of bugs.
The old version is available for when an update to the normal version turns out to contain a crucial bug. Then at least you can use the old version.

Should you (after an update) find a bug that makes the normal version unusable for you, append "?version=old" to use the previous version of the client. Do let us know about the problem so we can look for a solution.

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2020-06-12 22:06:14

Re: Public testing new HTML5 client

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Thank you freudenoli for your feedback and welcome to sailonline! Feedback from newcomers is much appreciated. The new client is much like the old client in design and functionality. It seems a proven design and it's what the regular solers are used to. But of course we need to make sure that people just joining in are able to find their way in the new client as well. You will spot things we regular solers may not even notice.

1) The orange dot on the predictor line indicates the point where the command will execute based on your preliminary settings. You have yet to actually send that command by pressing the button "send command". The orange dot is indeed not useful for determining when/where the next registered command will execute. You can however see in the top right of the map how long to go until the next command, and then set that number on the "delay" box to move the orange dot to the time (and location) when the next command would execute.

2) At this moment, the only reason why the predictor line does not take into account the scheduled commands is because the old client also did not do this. It is the way it has always been and at this point we do not want to create a big competitive difference between the two clients. Once the new client will be the official client and the old Flash client just a backup, we will have the discussion with our members about changes as significant as this. It will change the game (at least a bit), so I believe it's fair to discuss it with you all before we make a decision.

An indicator on the predictor line where the next scheduled command would take place, as you suggested in your first comment, is probably a small enough change that it should not lead to any controversy or competitive difference between the old and new client. We'll keep it in mind!

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2020-04-10 15:36:37

Re: Public testing new HTML5 client

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A new version of the client will be published shortly. You can already try it out by appending ?version=dev to the URL of a race.

In case this new version does not work for you, let us know. You can use the old version by appending ?version=old to the URL of a race, even after the new version has been published.

To summarize:
Right now:
old: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/?version=old
old: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/
new: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/?version=dev

After update:
old: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/?version=old
new: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/
new: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/?version=dev

EDIT: I have now updated the client.

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2020-02-11 10:18:23

Re: Public testing new HTML5 client

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What you describe is caused by the different update times of the fleet, and your own boat. The fleet (all boats) are updated once a minute, so they make jumps of 1 minute. Your own pink boat is updated more frequently, and will jump ahead before the fleet catches up.

Your boat is also part of the fleet, so an version of your boat is updated together with the rest of the fleet once every minute. It looks like it is sailing behind your pink boat. In the Flash client this boat is made invisible, buy you can make it visible by clicking your own name in the leaderboard-tab.

Personally I always liked to see my shadow, so I could better compare how I was doing relative to the fleet. But it may be confusing to have it always visible, especially to new SOLers.

I think you problem would be solved with the following feature:
Make drawing of own boat in fleet invisible unless own boat is selected in the ranking-tab.
Even better may be to have three options in the settings: {always show, never show, only when selected}, with as default one of the last two.
2020-02-03 13:35:15

Re: Public testing new HTML5 client

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A new version of the client has been published. You can simply refresh/reload browser tab.

If this new version doesn't work for you, let us know. You can use the older version by appending
```
?version=old
```
to the url, or (for the current two races) by clicking the links below.
Dondra to Sanya 2020
BA-Rio 2020

What has been changed? Here is a list of the most important changes (credit to ij):
- Tack/Gybe button label split to either “Tack” or “Gybe”
- POIs show local wind info
- When WX panel is focused, left and right arrow keys step time backwards and forwards
- Minor tweaking to mouse handling code to prepare for touch interface improvements for ruler and steer tools (should not change anything but may still break something)
- Highlight race leader setting
- Attempt to prevent browser’s autocompletion for text input fields
- Chat input text area style changes (one additional line and scrollbar enabled when necessary)
- Boat scale setting
- Boat list save/restore
- UI changes to enable Touch UI
- WX panel styling improvements (roughly constant width)
- Control panel layout tweaks, ranking tab in particular (to solve iPad UI issues)
- Chat odd/even bg color tweak to hopefully avoid some “bg jumps” when new messages appear
- Fix stale boat filter when a boat list that was in “show only” state is deleted
- TWS contours. There are still some horizontal gap artifacts in contours and when wx area appears more than once, only one of them draws contours currently; in practice, neither limits significantly the usefulness of contours. Contour density is configurable through Settings.
- Quick-access buttons for show TWS/TWD (beside the wind arrow/barb)
- Ranking tab click vs mouseup problem (reported to occur with Edge)

PS: for early access to updates like this, you can append
```
?version=dev
```
to the URL. This "dev"-version gets updated more frequently (and without notice). Drawback is that there may be more bugs. At this moment the "dev"-version is not ahead any updates.
2020-01-27 20:37:41

Re: Public testing new HTML5 client

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I don't think double (or triple) clicking has been implemented to go to max zoom immediately. But something very useful you may not be aware of is that you can shift-click and drag. This selects a region on the map, and when you release the mouse button, it zooms to that region of the map. Does that work for you, or would you still really like a way to go to max zoom immediately?

In general, there multiple differences with the Flash client. Some things work slightly different, other things are simply not copied from the old client. If you find some feature in the Flash client useful, let us know what you use it for (like Rod did). This really helps. Maybe there is an alternative to achieve the same (or better), and if not. Who knows ij wants to implement it (for this it really helps to know how people are using features, and why they want them).

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2020-01-11 18:45:04

Re: Public testing new HTML5 client

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I have just noticed: if you have not yet registered in the race, to button to go to the new HTML client does not work properly, it will send you to the registration page, which will have forgotten that you wanted to see the new client and send you to the old Flash client. After registration, you can close the page/go back, and click the "New HTML5 client" button again.

I will try and think of a fix for this.
2020-01-11 18:35:18

Public testing new HTML5 client

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Blog post "New HTML5 client"

Today a button appeared above the usual "GO TO RACE" button. This new button reads "New HTML5 client" and clicking it brings you to the new HTML5 client. You may have heard the rumours that this new client was under development and will eventually replace the Flash client we are used to. As Flash is being phased out it is becoming increasingly difficult to use sailonline in new browsers, so it is vital to have an alternative. Let me take this opportunity to thank our SOLer ij, who has been responsible for the existence of this new client, brightening the future of sailonline.

We are now making this new HTML5 client available for everyone to use. Be aware that the client is still in a testing phase and that there may still be some bugs and problems with it. The user interface and general functionality are mostly the same as in the Flash client, but you may notice some differences, for example:
- There are no contour lines indicating wind strength. The client is not completely finished yet and this is one aspect where work is still being done.
- The TWA input field for steering requires a + or - sign. This should prevent some of the accidental tacks we have probably all experienced when we forgot the - sign.
- You can monitor multiple chatrooms at the same time. You can now use the chatrooms English and the one for your native language at the same time!
A longer list of changes can be found here. Use that chat and forum to talk with each other about using the new client and its new features. Some SOLers already have some experience with it and may be able to give you some tips and tricks.

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2019-09-10 09:45:40

WANTED: Testers new client

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Hello all,

First let me bring you the good news that a SOLer has stepped up a while ago and started work on a new HTML5 client. We hope this client will ultimately replace the current Flash client, as Flash support gets removed from browsers over the next years.

This new HTML5 client is now ready for some testing. We would like to select a handful of people that want to (1) test the new client and (2) be a guide to the new client once everyone else starts using it.

As someone in this group
(1) you will communicate with each other about their findings and maintain a list of bugs and feedback together, and
(2) Once we believe the most important issues are all resolved, we will open the new client to the public and we would like you to answer questions in chat/forum when you are online and generally help people get started. If new problems are discovered, you can add them to the list.

For (1) it would be nice if some of the people in the group have some affection/knowledge of web technologies or software testing.

For (2) it would be nice if you are an active SOLer that is available in chat relatively frequently. It would be good to have some people from the non-English communities, like for example French, Italian and Spanish. But communication within the group and with us will be in English. Also SOLers from the Americas and Australasia are most welcome to join in order to have our "guides" spread over all time zones.

If you are interested to be part of this group of "early adopters", please send an e-mail to my @sailonline.org address: huib@
And if you know of people that may be interested, but sure to point them to this post.

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