Sailonline.org - Online Sailing

Facebook

Login

Support Sailonline

If you haven't already - join the SAILONLINE YACHT CLUB!

Please also consider making a donation - all amounts are greatly appreciated!

Tweets by @sailonline

Board » Sailonline Yacht Club » Preliminary ranking system

Posted by NOR_Jawik Posts 70 Registered at 2008-08-31 20:55:18	2008-09-24 21:04:13 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
	SYC Championship 2008 I have been study the ranking board and I have some comment to add. As far as I can see - DNS and DNF get 181 points. I don't think this justify those members who complete the races. Leg 1: DNS and DNF should have at least + 322 points (last boat) added. Leg 2: DNS and DNF should have at least + 309 points (last boat) added. And the list must be adjusted while the other bots/members are coming in. e.g. If I landed on DNF in the first race I would ended up as #151.
Posted by Wiz Posts 7 Registered at 2007-11-20 08:31:22	2008-09-24 23:46:53 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
	Thnx - that was an error! Fixed. /Wiz --- Last Edited by Niklas Stenum at 2008-09-24 23:47:22 ---
Posted by dirtrider Posts 5 Registered at 2008-02-29 22:13:56	2008-09-25 10:36:12 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
	Hi ! i habe a question concerning the bonus points. Are there all races counted or only the races of the last 6 month ? I wonder how some sailors have more than 2000 bonus points ? Regards Stefan GER 2539
Posted by lamo Posts 8 Registered at 2008-01-30 16:25:11	2008-10-06 09:58:56 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
	dirtrider said @ 2008-09-25 10:36:12: Hi ! i habe a question concerning the bonus points. Are there all races counted or only the races of the last 6 month ? I wonder how some sailors have more than 2000 bonus points ? Regards Stefan I agree with dirtrider that the calculation of participation points is very unclear at this moment. For instance, I now have 1813 points. How can this be if I should have 50 points per race? I think the calculation algorithm should be published. Regards Lars Lars Möller Hometown: Karlskrona, Sweden
Posted by Jeroen Posts 245 Registered at 2007-08-15 09:17:47	2008-10-06 10:09:25 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
	The differences in point come from the period before we set this 50 point participation points bonus. We have tried several systems and some older users have still got some participation points from this period. The difference will even out once those races are beyond the 6 month line. I am a ex-admin of SOL who joins in from time to time.
Posted by Laser sailor at Pupuke Posts 15 Registered at 2008-09-15 02:36:19	2008-12-02 20:26:14 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
	Wiz said @ 2008-04-13 11:28:50: Ranking systems in sailing has been up to discussion many times. It almost always falls back on the standard lowscoring system described in ISAF racing rules. Why not use it? Well tested and described (end of discussion?) and as I see it it will apply very well to SYC ranking system. For example: Use latest 15 races to conform a serie. Winner gets 1 point, 2nd place 2 points aso. You don't count 1 of 5 races. What I like with this system compared to current one: - Sailing IRL is not about winning 5 races of 30. It's about not making big mistakes. - A 5th place is worth the same for every race. It's not my fault the others didn't show up. - You have to participate, but if you miss a race you can still win. - Same system as IRL ___________________________________________ I emphatically agree!!! Sail-Online is about simulating real life sailing. Adopting an already established international scoring system not only provides a tested system, it elevates Sail-Online to be closer to real sailing. --- Last Edited by Bruce Hudson at 2008-12-02 20:27:01 --- --- Last Edited by Bruce Hudson at 2008-12-02 20:27:37 ---
Posted by Eddie C. Dost Posts 57 Registered at 2008-08-23 11:40:29	2008-12-03 16:48:22 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
	I agree fully with Niklas and Bruce. The ISAF system is fair and honours a steady performance while not overrating single good results or single bad results. Independantly of this the sailonline ranking is wrong at some point. The last edition of the ranking in the wiki is dated March 31 this year, which is more than 6 month ago. So there should be no races with bonuspoints different to 50 in the ranking anymore. Bonuspoints greater than 2000 are strange anyhow, there have been 24 races in the last 6 month so the maximum bonus is 1200 points... I hope I counted correctly, this might be one or two races off, but there is no explaination for more than 2000 bonus points in the ranking. Please check the calculation of the ranking, it is really hard to understand for new members, as a chance to get much higher than rank 100 is not visible. _/)_/)_/) The sea is lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to sail before I sleep, And miles to sail before I sleep.
Posted by jakob Posts 364 Registered at 2007-09-04 10:05:30	2008-12-03 18:47:25 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
	Hi! We listen to our community. You know that. Our ranking is a bit embarrasing at the moment and we will redo it. Most likely we will do the ISAF-ranking. Have patience please. Thing is that we NEED to do some other development first. E.g. we have a date-line-crossing to take care of... ...one of the guys behind the game...
Posted by Eddie C. Dost Posts 57 Registered at 2008-08-23 11:40:29	2008-12-03 18:59:30 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
	Fine, Jakob. As long as we know you will look into this at some time it's good. Datelines can be tricky, I know that My thoughts are with you and Kalle. _/)_/)_/) The sea is lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to sail before I sleep, And miles to sail before I sleep.
Posted by ybw_trev Posts 13 Registered at 2008-01-21 13:37:57	2008-12-08 14:36:59 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
	Poor chap just joined SYC. Total rank #338 with -393 points, of which -798 are bonus points for participation. Don't know what he did to upset you. PS I think your doing a really really good job. Trev.

Page: Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next

Please login to post a reply.

Races

Next Race: 00d 00h 00m

Current Races:

Manilla to Calbayog 2024

After six years, we welcome you to the race created by sassy63 for the second time. He takes us to the Philippines to race around islands on a 380 nm course. We sail the Italia 14.98 and in Calbayog we'll enjoy our well-deserved Palatan dish and drink it with San Miguel.
Race #1803
INFO from brainaid.de
Italia 14.98 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
ARQ2 - ARCH - SUPSOL - SYC
Race starts: Apr 22nd 17:00 Registration Open!

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

Jakob's Birthday BBQ Race 2024

Sailonline had two founders and Jakob, the more senior of the two, has his birthday in April which we always like to celebrate with a race through the Stockholm Archipelago from Revengegrundet Lighthouse to his mooring at Baggensfjärden. Traditionally also, like other celebrations this time of year, this feast has been “moveable”, so on this occasion we will be racing on a Wednesday in one of our latest high-performance 40-footers, the Carkeek 40. Please join us then for this always tricky 30nm race. Grattis på födelsedagen Jakob!
Race #1794
INFO by brainaid.de
Carkeek 40 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC
Race starts: Apr 20th 14:00 Registration Open!

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

Melbourne to Osaka Prelude 2024

Welcome once again to what these days is Sailonline’s almost annual virtual Melbourne to Osaka Yacht Race. In real life, this double-handed 5500 nm race between these two sister cities, one deep in the southern hemisphere, the other high in the northern hemisphere, is run every four to five years, and is planned to be held again in 2025, so this race is a Prelude in partnership with the Melbourne Osaka Cup 2025 organising committee collaborating with the Ocean Racing Club of Victoria (ORCV), and the Sandringham (SYC) and Osaka Hokko (OHYC) yacht clubs. On this occasion, we’ll be racing the well-known First 40, a popular size of boat for a long-distance double-handed race. With the doldrums unavoidably lying across the track, you can expect to be at virtual sea for at least a month!
Race #1669
INFO by brainaid.de
First 40 Particulars
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC
Race starts: Apr 20th 00:00 Registration Open!

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

St Nazaire Chasse TIMED Race 2024

Welcome to a "chasse" (hunt) from St. Nazaire to La Baule on the west coast of France! This race was designed by SOLer FR_flouflou in 2010. The KER 40 was introduced to SOL in 2016 by SOLer psail, and the Sol-KER was a welcome addition to SOL’s fleet of 40- footers, as it was to the IRL Ker fleet of eponymous - like KERonimo, KukuKERchu and Ice BreaKER. This is a TIMEDrace, so you may RE-REGISTER HERE to try again, after finishing a run. You will have 13 days and 11 hours to show your skill and decision making after the race opens.
Race #1797
INFOby brainaid.de
Ker 40 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
TRQ2 - TRCH - SUPSOL - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Saturday,
27 April at 23:00 UTC
Race starts: Apr 14th 12:00 Registration Open!

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

The Beagle in the Straits of Magellan 2024

Both before and after visiting the Falkland Islands, the Beagle extensively explored the south eastern coast of South America, hither and thither, from north of the Rio Plate to the tip of Tierra del Fuego, but it was not till the end of June 1834 that the ship made it into the Pacific Ocean, transiting via the Straits of Magellan. Online in 2024, the choice is yours - passage the strait or round the cape; 400nm or more in your Class B Tall Ship.
Race #1753
INFOby brainaid.de
Tall Ship Class B PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SVF - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Sunday,
April 21 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Apr 09th 13:00 Registration Closed

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

Cape Town to Auckland 2024

Welcome to the second leg of this Round The World series 2024. It's also the April edition of this year's ocean race championship. The course is the same as the one sailed in 2023, but this year we sail the iconic Swan 65, as suggested in the concluding RTW race last year.
Prepare yourselves for an epic 30-day journey, navigating through the unpredictable waters of the South Seas. It's essential to take care of provisioning to ensure a smooth and enjoyable race experience. With the longer duration, we anticipate plenty of opportunities for camaraderie, competition, and unforgettable memories.
PRIZE: SMPF
Race# 1789
INFO from brainaid.de
Swan 65 PARTICULARS
WX updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: OCQ2 - RTW - OCCH - SUPSOL - SYC
Race starts: Apr 01st 11:00 Registration Closed

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

Go to race archive

SYC Ranking

View full list

Series

Mobile Client

SYC members have the benefit of access to our mobile/lightweight web client!

The mobile client