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Laiska


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2008-04-08 13:47:49 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
Case SWE54 just makes my point clearer: he can now after St.Malo post 1-1-1-2-2, and I can just call with 1-1-1-3-3. However, in rankings, with my activity points he can not even come close.
As much as I hate to lose, it is almost as painful to be at the top merely thanks to quantitative merits ;-).
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2008-04-08 18:12:48 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
I agree with Laiska. I think you should skip the participation points and instead increase the number of results that are counted from 5 to 8 or 10. That would put the best sailors in top of the ranking and you dont have to participate in all races.
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2008-04-09 07:43:40 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
I also agree,
(see my post 2008.03.12 20:36)
I would like to see a system were you count the average of let´s say the latest 5 race.

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2008-04-09 07:50:49 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
Participation points is essential in the current system. Without participation points there is much less incentive to finish a race, even though you are placed in the higher numbers. Also, since ranking points are given in relation to *finished* boats, we need as many boats finishing as possible.

I also believe it is positive in general to have a system that encourages participation and commitment.

What we can discuss however, is how much the participation bonus should be.
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2008-04-10 13:06:02 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
I just had a quick look at the rankings..:)
I was 5th and then i won the Route of Gold part II and now I'm 6th...???
That's not right anyway you cut it..:)
This means that the ranking is only a list of participation. In the end it does'nt matter how you're doing.
If you want to encourage participation you should give a bonus to every 5th or 10th race, like most bonus systems do. And you could also speed up the fading process. That would encourage most to keep on sailing and try to improve. New members will not be able to reach the top even if they perform excellently.
Still a happy camper...:)


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SWE54


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2008-04-10 13:19:55 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
Maybe the ranking should be based on the most rescent 5 races instead of the best 5 in 6 months? That would make it a little easier to reach the top, and it might encourage to race too.
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2008-04-10 13:52:01 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
Hi,
Well, your ranking is not only dependent on your results but on your results in comparison with competitors. Thus, you can drop even when you perform well since not just the last race counts. That is the way it should be. We feel that the current system really encourage participation. The system also allows for occasional mistakes, which is good. I do not see the advantage in giving participation points for only every 5th or 10th race. I need more convincing...

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2008-04-10 14:32:44 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
To be fair, I didn't do the Finish lake race and that might explain the drop in the ranking. I just mean that the ranking is a little bit too static. It's too hard to improve by results. If you based it on the 5 most rescent races it would be a more dynamic list, also a more true list. For now I just have to start in every race to collect points and still be in the top 10, for some time.
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2008-04-12 19:51:54 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
1. Participation is essential. But if you wan't to be in the top you can't even go on a vacation - it's a full time job.
2. To reach the top for a newcomer, he can win every race, but he will be in the lead only after 6 months.

Suggestions:
1. Make a system that's allow you to skip 20% of the races. For example, maximum participation bonus is "no of races" x 80%.
2. At the current rate of races, use only 3 months of races. (15 races!!)
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2008-04-13 05:48:19 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
I agree with you who don't want to count all races. The participation bonus would be calculated on maybe 75% of all races an you don't need to race every race. But I think the best five of the last six mounth is okey.
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