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Board » Flag Officers » Races » The Tall Ships Races 2012

Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2012-07-03 12:22:04 - The Tall Ships Races 2012
	For a second year, SOL is buddied with The Tall Ships Races. This year we are sailing a Class A Tall Ship, a 90m Barque, so the races will be run as a full series. The real event comprises three races and one Cruise-in-Company where the boats don't race. Because SOLers don't know the meaning of not racing, SOL's Cruise in Company will be ranked for SYC purposes but will not be included in the series ranking. Later in August there will also be an Irish Sea Tall Ships Regatta from Dublin to Liverpool. This thread is for all links, information and other useful gen. that we can share with each other. ______________________________ USEFUL LINKS: GENERAL Current Entry List Definition of a Tall Ship Tall Ships Database Names of Sails AIS Tracker AIS Searchable Picture Database ________________ ST MALO St Malo Tall Ships website Events List St Malo Info _________ LISBON Lisbon Tall Ships website _________ CADIZ Cadiz Tall Ships website _________ A CORUNA A Coruna Tall Ships website _________ DUBLIN Dublin Tall Ships website _________ IRISH SEA TALL SHIPS REGATTA Irish Sea TSR Website _________ --- Last Edited by RainbowChaser at 2012-07-04 11:32:45 ---
Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2012-07-04 19:18:32 - POSE A QUESTION TO THE FORMER RACE DIRECTOR
	SOLer John Hector is the former Race Director of Sail Training International and has had many years experience of sailing and sail-training both there and with other organisations. John Hector is the main link between SOL and Sail Training International these days and he has very generously set up a dedicated email account where SOLers may ask any Tall Ships / sail-training related questions. If you would like to take advantage of this amazing opportunity to quiz one of the leading exponents of tall ship sailing then please feel free to send your email here: john_hector_sol@hotmail.com
Posted by stoertebaeker Posts 78 Registered at 2009-06-27 20:10:15	2012-07-04 19:29:32 - Re: The Tall Ships Races 2012
	Ha, great oportunity ! Too sad Mr. Hector did not invite us to actually sail on a tall ship ! Cheers, Roland <<DO NOT USE FOR NAVIGATION>>
Posted by sol Posts 296 Registered at 2008-08-14 11:08:14	2012-07-05 03:15:58 - Re: The Tall Ships Races 2012
	How about: http://www.squidoo.com/sailtallships __________ Will whoever posted this please identify themselves.Thank you. RainbowChaser __________ --- Last Edited by RainbowChaser at 2012-07-05 05:40:05 ---
Posted by John_Hector Posts 5 Registered at 2011-06-24 22:26:33	2012-07-05 15:15:36 - Re: The Tall Ships Races 2012
	Sorry, 'twas me. I got my login muddled. J_H
Posted by John_Hector Posts 5 Registered at 2011-06-24 22:26:33	2012-07-09 22:47:56 - Re: The Tall Ships Races 2012
	The start of the Tall Ships race from St Malo to Lisbon is unusual but not unique. Square-rigged ships are very vulnerable when sailing along a lee shore and the North Brittany coastline is potentially hostile. It was therefore a wise choice to allow the ships to claw out of the English Channel and into the Western Approaches by using their engines if needed, and getting themselves into a more favourable wind pattern. The accuracy and availability of the GPS system has made a race organiser’s job much easier in that Waypoints can be used as course markers rather than having to rely on fixed navigational marks. I remember having to start a race after thick fog had descended on the fleet while they were maneuvering for a start. I took a similar action and directed each class to pass through a mythical ‘box’ delineated by waypoints. Competitors always have to take their own Finish Times so this crossing of an 'imaginary' Start Line and recording their Start Time requires a similar code of honesty.
Posted by ahousten Posts 1 Registered at 2011-11-04 17:21:25	2012-07-10 12:44:46 - Re: The Tall Ships Races 2012
	Why are there a few boats that are WAY out in front of the pack so soon after the start? It can't be explained by sailing a better course since the pack is clearly sailing a wide range of angles. Something isn't right.
Posted by 76Trombones Posts 362 Registered at 2009-08-03 18:04:56	2012-07-10 12:54:58 - Re: The Tall Ships Races 2012
	The "gold" boats in the SOL client are the real ships being tracked. Due to the wind direction, the real race shifted the start to a "virtual" location offshore, that SOL is using as well. The real fleet have a (virtual/gps) 5nm wide starting line that they were allowed to cross anytime between 0600 and 1800, keeping a note of when they officially start. So not only are the gold boats different from we are racing this leg (MIR and Dar M. are 20% longer and set 50% more sail), but they got a head start We should catch some of the others though. 76T
Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2012-07-10 12:58:02 - Re: The Tall Ships Races 2012
	ahousten - they are six of the real tall ships whose tracks we have hooked into the SOL race screen. I don't know if you have read into English chat at all but if not, click on the Homepage link to the real Tracker and you will see how tracks match up! The real boats are listed in SOL's Boats Tab with the prefix "@". The real boats sail with us but don't finish with us so any ranking throughout the race disappears at the end so that they don't grab a ranking from a SOLer.
Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2012-08-21 14:55:14 - Re: The Tall Ships Races 2012
	AHOY SOLers! I have just been reminded of the original announcement regarding the Tall Ships race series: The real event comprises three races and one Cruise-in-Company where the boats don't race. Because SOLers don't know the meaning of not racing, SOL's Cruise in Company will be ranked for SYC purposes but will not be included in the series ranking. Despite having reviewed the series set up before now, for some reason I still hadn't got it right. SO... the series has now been adjusted so that it will be, as advertised before the series started. The new results should be available overnight. --- Last Edited by RainbowChaser at 2012-08-21 14:57:40 ---

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