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2011-01-01 19:34:56 - Re: Sailplanner users can connect to brainaids NMEA proxy!!
StuArt said @ 2011-01-01 17:55:13:
Hi Magnus,
Can you please create a step-by-step instruction for the mac-version like Exmer's Windows tutorial? I would babysit your boat whenever you want ;-))

regards

StuArt/Berth
OK, StuArt, I'll try :)

open Brainaid's proxy from the website and login.

download and start MultiCom.
set Port A to "Pseudo Terminal" and
set Port B to "IP Client" and enter the IP-address and port number from brainaid's proxy as "Server Host Name" and "Server Port".
check both as enabled. make a note of the device it's connected as ex. /dev/ttys001

open a terminal window and enter:
sudo ln -s /dev/ttys001 /dev/tty.NMEA

start sailplanner and check "lock to NMEA"
choose tty.NMEA in sailplanner's NMEA setup window

click the start button in brainaid's proxy

click the check button in sailplanner's NMEA setup window

if you get a green OK everything worked
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2011-01-02 01:02:55 - Re: Sailplanner users can connect to brainaids NMEA proxy!!
Magnus:

WOW!

I had fiddled around with MultiCom before but couldn't figure out a way to do it. I had also tried VirtualSerialPort App and other OSX communication tools to no avail. The best I could do was get it to work on my old Ibook G4 (Leopard) whose dial up modem port apparently was working in loopback mode. On my newer MacBookPro I couldn't get it to work. I had been trying by using other software (PolarCom) to serve as the TCP-serial brigde but once the serial port is in use only one application (PolarCom) could read the port and the data couldn't be shared to Sailplanner.

Your step by step procedure works!!

Thanks!!

Cheers,

Antonio
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2011-01-02 12:17:00 - Re: Sailplanner users can connect to brainaids NMEA proxy!!
Hi Magnus,

First: thanks for your effort.
It worked until I got the terminal-warning:
"WARNING: Improper use of the sudo command could lead to data loss
or the deletion of important system files. Please double-check your
typing when using sudo. Type "man sudo" for more information."

That made me stop and think twice. Shall I proceed? Is it still safe? :-P

regards

Stu/Berth
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2011-01-02 13:07:26 - Re: Sailplanner users can connect to brainaids NMEA proxy!!
Hi Stu!

Magnus' procedure works beautifully and will not mess up your computer, what the sudo (Super User "do") command does in this case is give you access to the nitty gritty of the data exchange between OS X communication ports. Your highly sensitive OS files will be OK. Try it!

Cheers!

Antonio
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2011-01-03 22:11:35 - Re: Sailplanner users can connect to brainaids NMEA proxy!!
Hi,

EDIT This applies to Linux:

stagfock said @ 2010-10-27 22:44:53:
I had to copy the NMEAproxy.jnlp file to ~/.netx/cache/http/sol.brainaid.de/
sailonline/toolbox
Then I made it read only!
$ chmod -w ~/.netx/cache/http/sol.brainaid.de/
sailonline/toolbox/NMEAproxy.jnlp


no need to hop through these loops with the sun java packages. Apparently, the openjdk jre uses an outdated web start utility. Use the sun-java6-jre instead and brainaid's utility will work out of the browser.
Best, Jan



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2011-01-10 19:16:52 - Re: Sailplanner users can connect to brainaids NMEA proxy!!
Yet another method - for Windows XP

Many thanks to BrainAid and all the other contributors above without whose comments I would not have got to this point.

However, along the way, I encountered a number of errors from SailPlanner when attempting to connect it to a virtual COM port using VSPE and NavMonPC. For some reason these errors did not occur when connecting OpenCPN and other software to these COM ports but SailPlanner seems to be 'more particular' about what it will connect to.

So here is a description of how I have configured Sailplanner to connect to Brainaid's Proxy. This method uses HW Virtual Serial Port V2.5.10 which is also free to use.

It works for me. Your mileage may vary so please report any success or failure to help others following.

James
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2011-01-14 07:43:47 - Re: Sailplanner users can connect to brainaids NMEA proxy!!
It should be noted that trying to get your GPS data (from brainaid's proxy) into more than 1 program requires a different virtual COM port for each application. Using TCP client will increase the number of apps you can hook up, as more than 1 application can connect to the TCP port, unlike COM ports...

Also, if for some reason your program(s) cannot read the NMEA data on one of the polling cycles (BlueWater sometimes does this if there is much CPU/disk activity at the time it attempts a read) you will need to close that COM port(s) and restart it again.

In a nutshell, if you can read directly from brainaid's TCP proxy then use that method instead. Unfortunately not enough programs can accept NMEA over TCP connection...

Also Wild-by-name: What use do you put OpenCPN to? I downloaded it a while back and had a look, but cannot find anything that isnt in NavMon and BlueWater combined?? Actually any features in OpenCPN are better implemented in the other 2!?
I help develop the client interface for the best online ocean racing sim there is... __/)/)_/)__
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2011-01-14 11:39:12 - Re: Sailplanner users can connect to brainaids NMEA proxy!!
I agree - TCP is much more flexible.
I was only using OpenCPN because I have it configured on the same laptop for IRL sailing and I knew that it would receive and display both the GPS position and the AIS stream.

When I am running a separate chart plotter without AIS then NavmonPC is my AIS client of choice - much more responsive and less demanding memory wise.

I have not tried Bluewater yet - must give it a go.

Regards,

James


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2011-01-15 23:09:11 - Re: Sailplanner users can connect to brainaids NMEA proxy!!
Can anyone help me here I am totally new to Ubuntu/Linux, and I would like to get this going on Ubuntu, I need a step by step all this code is uncharted water for me but I have managed to run the NMEAproxy.jnlp by placing it on the desktop and right clicking it selecting 'Open With' then 'Sun Java 6 Web Start' I have also got the Sailplanner going but not connected and that is as far as I can go the COM port thing is where I am stuck. Thanks for the help
Its the things like how do I "copy the NMEAproxy.jnlp file to ~/.netx/cache/http/sol.brainaid.de/sailonline/toolbox" that get me! I copy the code into the terminal and I get "bash: /home/edwin/.netx/cache/http/sol.brainaid.de/sailonline/toolbox: is a directory" then when I go to the file "/home/edwin/" I do not see the ".netx"
stagfock said @ 2010-10-27 22:44:53:
This is not a complete tutorial, just the major steps I took to get my SOL position into Sailplanner on linux. Details are omitted, I just want to say it works (but not out of the box). I'm sure there are better ways, perhaps already reported in the forum.

Try to start the brainaid proxy. It failed for me not passing an argument to the proxy.
I had to copy the NMEAproxy.jnlp file to ~/.netx/cache/http/sol.brainaid.de/sailonline/toolbox
Then I made it read only!
$ chmod -w ~/.netx/cache/http/sol.brainaid.de/sailonline/toolbox/NMEAproxy.jnlp

Then I tried again.
$ javaws NMEAproxy.jnlp
press start
Horray, it worked. Lets create a virtual serial port connected to the TCP-stream.
$ mkdir ~/dev
$ socat pty,link=~/dev/vty0,waitslave tcp:localhost:5010

Create com3 under wine using the new virtual serial port.
$ ln -s ~/dev/vty0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com3

Start Sailplanner under wine (assuming you already installed it)
lock to nmea...
select com3
press check
(perhaps you need to restart the virtual serial port if it died (socat))
press OK

Enjoy! Or at least I do:-)




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Take it "ESEA" go sailing
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2011-01-16 09:31:38 - Re: Sailplanner users can connect to brainaids NMEA proxy!!
ESEA said @ 2011-01-15 23:09:11:
Its the things like how do I "copy the NMEAproxy.jnlp file to ~/.netx/cache/http/sol.brainaid.de/sailonline/toolbox" that get me! I copy the code into the terminal and I get "bash: /home/edwin/.netx/cache/http/sol.brainaid.de/sailonline/toolbox: is a directory" then when I go to the file "/home/edwin/" I do not see the ".netx"
--- Last Edited by ESEA at 2011-01-15 23:14:40 ---
As said in another post above, the openjdk does not work as desired in this case. You could uninstall openjdk-6-... and install sun-java-6-...

Then try without that copying of the jnlp file.
Cheers!

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