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2012-01-30 13:40:18 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
Paul !! ;)

I agree with you that sailing in SOL with a WX that perfectly matches the IRL situation would be wonderful.

Unfortunatly though the vast majority of us , when consulting gribs and local forecasts of all kinds tend to forget that the ONLY wx our little pinky boats sail under is the SOL one in each single moment rendered by the server through the client.... ;) ;) ;).

My point when starting this thread was that staring at a pc waiting for 6 hours for a delayed scheduled new wx release is taking away one of the best features of " SOL manageability " .....so :

no sailing under delayed false wx .....just sailing under false wx waiting for too long delayed update of a false new one ..;)

I agree that looking at an irl forecast ahead of the sol update might be VERY useful to anticipate following strategies ....but ONLY on one simple condition : that the SOL update will reflect it !!! ;)

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2012-01-30 14:30:01 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
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2012-01-30 15:06:47 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
Buffering weather would hand the routers another 4.9% (of the 5 that are left)...
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2012-01-30 16:00:10 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
Why not use GFS, then?
Spoken from minimal knowledge of wx fcst
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2012-01-30 19:29:11 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
IRL when sailing in "foreign" waters, one does NOT always get the latest forecasts. It happens.

Not all forecasts are accurate, just guesses, good guesses but still guesses based upon lots of data and modeling.

So reliance upon the forecast to be exact is a falsehood. One problem is that too much SoL racing can lead one to expect the same IRL at sea. Some random factors need to exist, otherwise SoL will de-generate into a route plotter cheque book scenario where route planner "A" is bigger, faster and costs more than planner "B" etc.

Previously I have commented that SoL's precision is unreal e.g. a compass course set to 1/100th of a degree. IRL one can't sail within 5 degrees of a nominated course.

I can understand the different feelings about Baltic forecasts being unreliable in schedule times which naturally upsets the Germanic and Scandavian desires for precision. Perhaps a South Pacific Island view point of having to wait for the next coconut to fall down before you get another refreshing drink can be just too hard to understand.

Relax, have a settling rum or three, and hurry up and wait.

Forrest Gump (film) said "Shit Happens".

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2012-01-30 21:37:19 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
I'm allowed to do this:



sorry for the original wide entry, I changed immediately (when I was back)

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2012-01-31 07:50:43 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
K3 would you mind changing that to a link or smaller image? It makes previous posts unreadable on certain lines
Thanks...

[Edit:] I also meant to say that was very funny K3... I had a school friend who's father had been an officer in the German military, so you can imagine how fastidious he was!! ;-)

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2012-02-05 15:41:09 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
The reason for using Baltic weather is that it affords grid sizes much smaller than those of NOAA and thus makes racing in Sailonline's home waters more fun.

BUT this only happens if the map/chart area is small enough to permit the use of these small grids (high definition if you will).

It makes no difference to how weather/courses/races are set up if we choose global_gfs vs MM5 Baltic.

My suggestion then is that where there is no "definition advantage" to be gained by using Baltic MM5 then we use global_gfs. This means that only where we are sailing in small spaces in the Baltic area (some archipelago races for example) will the updated-twice-daily super-high-definition wx grids will be used.

How does that sound?
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2012-02-05 16:58:59 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
It seems to me that the wx source became an issue only because a utc-nite update didn't come on time, thus "forcing" skippers to loose sleep that was not anticipated.
Hi def. is fine, provided it comes when it's supposed to. Whether 6hr or 12 hr update cycle is irrelevant in this case. A late wx update messes up everyone's plans.

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