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WIN


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2012-01-23 12:20:13 - BALTIC WX UPDATES
Ciao all ;)

during yesterday' St.Petersburg race we experienced the following "delays" in baltic wx updates :

0830 - 4,5 hours late
2030 - 6 hours late

I would like to suggest adoption of the Noaa updates for baltic races as well, even at cost of less precision in matching reality.

Ability of planning pc attendance is one of best features of sol, and baltic updates are presently incompatible with that ;) ;) ;)

ciao
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2012-01-23 21:55:53 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
I agree with WIN. I had to calculate the last 3 tacks by DC and a late update ist not very helpful for my sleep and my ranking.
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2012-01-25 06:31:19 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
I think the question is - how often are they late? NOAA is not immune to publishing late forecasts either (although not very often)

Perhaps, if the race area is large enough that there is no extra precision to be gained from using Baltic then they should not be used? (SOL resamples the forecast over large areas to keep wx data to a reasonable limit)

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2012-01-25 23:40:48 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
I'd support a switch to GFS as well. The gain in spatial resolution (sometimes) never seems to balance against 12h "cycles" - leading to less interesting racing, regardless of timing issues.

The NAM data for the US/Canada seems to work nicely though, and we could probably use it a bit more often.
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2012-01-26 08:29:37 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
Yeah very true about the 12 hr updates - i recall a few times the forecast were almost opposites in direction only an hour in!
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2012-01-26 20:10:51 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
The 12hour Wx was the reason I didn't do this race. The 12 cycle for the Baltic is more often than not late on the weekends. Also there are often huge differences in Wx from the end of one update to the next.
Yes NOAA is occasionally late with updates, but you can check and see when it will be made up. The NCEP status page can be reached at:
http://alturl.com/psz9x




--- Last Edited by Jack Watson at 2012-01-26 20:16:14 ---
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2012-01-26 21:00:28 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
I prefer to stay with Baltic 12 hour forecast. Bigger differences between weather after 12 hours make it interesting. It would be pleasant to have weather delivery on time. Pity that time of weather delivery is out of SOL hands.
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2012-01-26 21:10:17 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
I don't mind the differences beteen updates, as they can shuffle things nicely as PetrM mentions.

The 12 hours of fixed wind in between are the bigger problem. Other than for island-dodging competitions, there's too much predictability.

The dream for SOL would be continuously variable weather.
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2012-01-26 21:49:52 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
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--- Last Edited by A2R at 2012-02-10 07:05:29 ---
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2012-01-30 08:12:15 - Re: BALTIC WX UPDATES
BANG!!!

Problem with terrorists and those who suggest high treason is a warning shot between the eyes.

One of the great beauties and benefits of SoL is that the racing IS in REAL TIME WITH REAL WEATHER. This allows those who live near a race have the benefit of local weather information from the local TV, Radio or newspaper etc. This add a nice little realism.

This same information is available to all via the internet, just a few searches away.

Personally I enjoyed seeing the Italian weather forecast data available during a race last year around the islands south of the Italian mainland, thanks to somebody's helpful post in chat. Otherwise I would never have seen the way they present their weather. Likewise in NZ we can watch the TV for Sydney Hobart and The NZ races.

We can all learn something. So NEVER use FALSE or DELAYED weather.

--- Last Edited by NZL_PaulR at 2012-01-30 08:13:08 ---
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