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2012-03-12 09:38:25 - Re: Proposal for Performance Handicapping
looks nice, but....
Can you post a .xls version? cannot open an .xlsx if is only my problem forget it.
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2012-03-12 20:42:14 - Re: Proposal for Performance Handicapping
Gilles,

Try this


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2012-03-13 07:41:05 - Re: Proposal for Performance Handicapping
Here's a .xls version.
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2012-03-13 08:31:20 - Re: Proposal for Performance Handicapping
THX!!!

@ zero, I am trying to keep my laptop windows office free ;-)

looking the numbers:

if I got the system, to score 1000 you should win at least 15 races indipendent of the time frame, right?
found my new goal for the next years! lol

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2012-03-13 09:11:18 - Re: Proposal for Performance Handicapping
I found a mistake in the previous spreadsheet, so I've attached a corrected version. You can get 1000 by winning 10 of your first 15 races. Otherwise, you need to gradually increase your rating by winning. Depends on your starting rating for how long that takes.

Maybe we should We are thinking of including a decrease in the rating, which would make it difficult to stay at 1000, let alone get there.
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2012-03-16 17:01:50 - Re: Proposal for Performance Handicapping
Hi Scotsman - getting closer! I ran a few of the recent long races with the latest set of numbers and the results are credible. There is a definite bias toward slower boats, but I'm not sure if this is reflecting the method of handicapping or the nature of long races.

A very interesting summary to look at is corrected time vs handicap for any given race. Ideally you'd end up a with a flat "limit" with cruisers etc scattered above that. For leg 3 there is a positive slope. Interestingly, you can also see the 24 gaps that boats were able to transit the strait in - within each group the trend holds true. Good news for the system.
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2012-03-18 03:07:08 - Re: Proposal for Performance Handicapping
I'll start processing results on the basis of my previous posts.

Hmmm, any chance of sending the results for the recent races like you did before? We have those up to #448 25 Feb 2012.

Any thoughts on how to host the results or the data? We can continue with this thread for now but at some stage the results should go somewhere more obvious.
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2012-03-24 04:22:01 - Re: Proposal for Performance Handicapping
I've analysed the ratings for the race #449. See attached. This spreadsheet includes updated rating and corrected results.

New SOLers can have very low ratings as they have not completed many races. This seems to skew the results. We may need to give them a higher starting rating which is more realistic until they have completed a few races.
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2012-03-25 01:53:18 - Re: Proposal for Performance Handicapping
Here are the next two race results. Whilst this is working ok, could do with some programming advice on how to improve it. Bit clumsy at the moment.
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2012-04-03 09:39:57 - Re: Proposal for Performance Handicapping
Here are the next two race results analysed for the performance rating and handicap results.

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