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I have seen a lot of talk on the chat line about computerized routers. I'm curious as to what percentage of the leaders use them. Is a router something I simply must have to think of winning one of these races? I have placed as high as 21 without one but don't want to be at an unfair advantage.

Also, just how much difference do they make? I've heard one sailor here estimate his finish time with a router to within 3 seconds of his actual finish.

My guess is that a router will give you ideas you can build on. I also would expect one to be extremely useful when you need to be away from the race for any long period of time. Other than that, just how essential are they? Am I at a disadvantage without one?

And my boat carves her wake for the sheer joy of giving life to sheafs of spray

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Hi,
I think it is very difficult, if not impossible to beat the router sailors on a long leg.
By "long leg" I mean legs that take more than 24 hours or so.
I think you have a change to win (without routers) long races that are composed of several short legs. (Legs that takes less than 24 hours).
Recent examples: Around Turkey race and The Caribean Race.
Recently SOL, under the leadership of RainbowChaser, has been very good in schedule all types of races; short races, long races and long races with several waypoints.
Therefore there are always a race for the "non-routers" to be in contention.

I also have to add that the use of a software router is NOT a sure recipe to victory. If we all used it there would still be a big spread between the fleet.

After 2 years of SOL'ing I found that the routers users are also very "fast" when not using software during very short races.

Hope this helps.
Antonio
Good questions!

I started a reply here but it sort of started to get out of control. I moved it to my blog:

http://76trombones.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/ramblings-on-routers/

I feel a little differently about long races, but agree 100% with Zero's other comments. At the very top, routing is not what makes the boats fast, but it does make it easier for them to be fast. It's a great tool. Even if you have no intention of using software during a race, it's worth a look at what is possible and how it can help. Lots to learn.

Apologies for posting off-site. I'll try to be more succinct next time. Happy to answer any related questions here.

--- Last Edited by 76Trombones at 2010-11-29 19:07:27 ---
Thanks 76T, your writing is very interesting.
So much to learn.
Antonio

--- Last Edited by zero at 2010-11-30 02:04:10 ---
I thanked 76T on his blog but I want to thank him here too. Very interesting blog article by the way.

Jeff
And my boat carves her wake for the sheer joy of giving life to sheafs of spray
I have one of the better commercial routers for the real-life boat. I did use it a few times on SOL. The great plus is that I learned to use my routing software and got used to its idiosyncrasies. The great minus is that I started to find SOL boring.

The problem was easily solved: I almost never use my routing software for SOL races anymore!
:-)
Incognito, that's very much how I feel. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

Jeff
And my boat carves her wake for the sheer joy of giving life to sheafs of spray

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