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2010-07-13 11:46:17 - Re: Sail around Turkey
OK!

don't worry - lots of folks post as sol but usually, like you, realise and then identify themselves :-D
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2010-07-14 07:51:56 - Re: Sail around Turkey
Hi RC, please correct as First 40.7..on the polar it is stated as First 40.7 which is correct.

Second issue about the wps still waiting comments from my friends who designed the race. will expedite and let you know.
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2010-07-14 08:24:32 - Re: Sail around Turkey
Ahmet - I have corrected the Homepage reference to the boat type. As a non-sailor I had thought that "First 40" was sufficient reference so, my apologies for not being precise!

I look forward to finding out if the race designers wish to make any changes to the course - personally, I rather like the way it is :-)
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2010-07-14 08:35:41 - Re: Sail around Turkey
Thanks for the correction.

I also like it the way it is but I asked my friends to look at it again and comment so that we can finalize the course.

Wish you a very nice day.
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2010-07-16 11:16:31 - Re: Sail around Turkey
Hi AC - one or two others who have looked at the race and are very keen to see it take place have also suggested that perhaps one or two of the waypoints could be made "either direction". This would not change the designed route very much but would open up the possibility for people to be a little creative.

The area does appear to have very changeable winds (particularly the Aegean) so a degree of discretion in choosing a route would make the race more of a challenge, and perhaps less of a "follow my leader"!

Please would you mention this to your friends (or just point them in the direction of this thread, of course!)?
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2010-07-16 12:18:53 - Re: Sail around Turkey
i have sent my friends a revised version of the race removing all wps after samos till antalya thus allowing the boats to go anyway they choose around the islands south east of the Aegean...it is true that the winds in this part can change a lot making it challenging for sailors to choose their route between the islands.
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2010-07-16 12:53:48 - Re: Sail around Turkey
Sounds like you guys are on the right track. Race design can be tricky. Balancing a desire to have boats follow a particular route, the aspects that make for good racing and SOL's peculiarities isn't easy!

I've been following this one with interest. It has the makings of a great (and slightly epic) race! The initial proposal had a few turns that conflicted with the way SOL calculates roundings (always goes around the "outside" of any angle) but was a good basis on which to build a race.

A handful of waypoints were added to force the fleet inshore at Lesvos, Samos and Antalya in keeping with the proposal.

I think AC505 has correctly identified the run following Samos as a bit of a bottleneck. Even without waypoints, it's likely that the fast line will be through th islands. Giving the fleet the choice makes for more interesting racing, and it also might allow some boats that need to set DC to take an offshore approach.

Many of the remaining waypoints don't actually change the race. They are there simply to make the in-race ranking work a little better and keep the course layout line close to the path sailed.

This race could very well be run with only the start and finish marks and it would be a fine course. It's going to be a tough one... 10-14 days and little chance to take a break :-)

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2010-07-16 12:55:09 - Re: Sail around Turkey
Attached files I,II,III.

I is the current course
II removes the labyrinth after Samos and simplifies some of the non-essential waypoints.
III is a bare-bones all-options-open Sail around Turkey.

I've suggested removing the waypoint in the Sea of Marmara as well unless the sponsors are very attached to it. The last race we had around here had some very interesting splits in the fleet, with some following the European shore and the other half taking varying lines through the islands.

Should be fun no matter what! There's a good chance I'll be watching this one from Datça :-)
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2010-07-16 18:00:05 - Re: Sail around Turkey
I thank Serge and 76 for their valuable comments. I have received the final OK for the course and I believe that it will make everybody happy (except maybe RC!).

We all hope that it will be an interesting race which will be publicized in Turkish boat magazines.

AND there are plans to make this a real life event next year. So the organizers might get some tips from this race!

and I wish 76 good time in Dalaman...but if you are also a windsurfer I suggest you go to Alacati one of the best place to surf.
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2010-07-16 18:24:24 - Re: Sail around Turkey
Ahmet- fabulous thank you!! OK so it means I go back to the "drawing board" (or SOL setup).. but I will now try and make changes to match what is now happening!!

I may still need to include one/two additional waypoints just to stop the rhumbline going across too much land (which looks ugly)from one of your waypoints to the next. Your line is wiggly but SOL rhumbline only goes straight from one point to the next!!

I will try and do this tomorrow morning before the Ouzo Rally starts... then you can check it out in SOL over the weekend.

After this, the race will disappear from the SOL homepage to give precedence to current and upcoming races.

Don't forget to let us have a copy of the article in Naviga magazine!! :-)

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