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Posted by Jawz Posts 154 Registered at 2009-07-21 09:51:19	2010-08-16 08:41:08 - Yacht Club Rankings Annual Championship
	Hi Folks The fact that our rankings is continuously rolling over is bugging me a little! Should we not consider running the rankings for a year? Dropping results does not have to happen either if there are races dedicated to the results ie an allocation of 10 Week races, 10 Weekend races and 10 Ocean races. Best 5 of each to count. An annual club champion is appointed and holds the title for a year. The present format can stay, we just allocate championship races as planned by the committee who will consider the various skills needed for the categories. Food for thought Regards George
Posted by victory Posts 36 Registered at 2009-04-18 11:37:25	2010-08-18 15:03:38 - Re: Yacht Club Rankings Annual Championship
	Speaking of rankings. The Ouzo rally from last weekend didn't go in to the weekend rankings!!! victory thank you! Its there now --- Last Edited by RainbowChaser at 2010-08-19 09:45:11 ---
Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2010-08-19 10:32:45 - Re: Yacht Club Rankings Annual Championship
	Jawz - not long ago I was thinking the same.. to be effective SOL would need to declare a "SOL race year". I believe the first race was run on 30 September 2007 so... maybe the SOL year should run from 1 October to 30 September in each year? That is sort of a cusp between southern and northern hemisphere sailing seasons too isn't it? Ideas anyone?
Posted by artem1s Posts 11 Registered at 2008-08-21 22:41:58	2010-10-09 14:30:52 - Re: Yacht Club Rankings
	is there a reason why the Erie race does not appear in the rankings? is the 'too many buoys' complaint? missing waypoints happens to everyone. i sincerely hope this wasn't the reason it has been excluded.
Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2010-10-10 13:12:34 - Re: Yacht Club Rankings Annual Championship
	artem1s - the Lake Erie race was deliberately left out of the rankings because it was anticipated to be a fairly speedy and difficult slalom course - quite a few Sunday/weekend races are not included in rankings as folks in the past have been unhappy to perceive themselves penalised for not being able to be online for a complicated course. The counter-argument is that one's worst results are discarded but that doesn't always soothe the angst!! Your course, which I loved btw, is definitely one to be repeated in the future! Would you have time to design a longer course for the week race series - the December calendar is in draft and posted in the Race Calendar forum and has a couple of spare slots that need filling!! Lake Erie/Great Lakes again would be good as we don't have a huge number of N American races in the archive ... it doesn't have to be a real race but one that takes in a few interesting locations is good and we could choose another boat-type (either typical of what is sailed locally or just one of our speedy ones). I hope you are not too disappointed that your first race wasn't included in rankings - a lot of our fun runs aren't... so your course most certainly was not singled out in any way.
Posted by artem1s Posts 11 Registered at 2008-08-21 22:41:58	2010-10-11 19:03:20 - Re: Yacht Club Rankings-excluding races
	not sure how to respond. isn't there a weekend/weekday separate ranking for just this reason? short races favor some members more than others? so? are the rankings there for an extra layer of fun/experience or so the same people can always win? which, I am getting a little weary of myself. how about designing a ranking system that doesn't favor only a few members? I was willing to concede that I would never have a chance to be on the podium because I don't use the weather predictors some members use but this 'gaming' the rankings to favor long course racers just seems like an extra insult. as are the constant rude comments about "sheep" racers in the forum and chats. why bother with the 'short' courses at all? obviously the only important races are the one that favor the usual winners. by my count we have about one short course for every 4-5 long ones. isn't that enough of a disparity already? if members are designing these sorts of courses wouldn't that indicate they prefer to see some other type of race once in awhile? I guess the exclusion really took me off guard but SOL's concession that they intentionally favor one type of racer over another really surprised me.
Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2010-10-11 19:35:41 - Re: Yacht Club Rankings Annual Championship
	artem1s - I am very sorry to have caused you any distress. Maybe my choice of words was clumsy but I am really not sure how to respond to your comments. I can only speak for myself and say that I am not aware of SOL ever "favouring" one kind of racer. There have,it seems to me, always been a reasonably good mix of ocean - mid-distance and short-ish races. The aim is to have an ocean race every month or so, a weekend race (usually capable of being finished over a weekend) and a week race (starting during the week and finishing over some days) each with its own ranking. If this mix has appeared skewed over the past months then this is my fault as I voluntarily stepped in in early June this year to help set up races when the last "race setter upper" left at very short notice. I can only apologise to you if my efforts in this regard have failed you. artem1s - I am,however,wondering if it is wrong to exclude any race at all from rankings.. so I shall set up a poll to canvass opinion. --- Last Edited by RainbowChaser at 2010-10-11 20:15:21 ---
Posted by RainbowChaser Posts 2656 Registered at 2009-06-14 09:44:50	2010-10-13 21:36:04 - Re: Yacht Club Rankings Annual Championship
	artem1s - at the moment there seems to bea majority in favour of all races counting towards ranking so.. in view of this AND of course your own wish that your race should have always counted (despite the race info saying otherwise) I shall now go into the system and set up your race for both SYC and weekend championships. So sorry this hasn't been straightforward.

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