Facebook

Login

Support Sailonline

If you haven't already - join the SAILONLINE YACHT CLUB!

Please also consider making a donation - all amounts are greatly appreciated!

Board » General Discussion » Weather interpolation

Hi!

I've been doing a two boat testing program using different software routers. Obviously the software program whose weather interpolation most closely resembles SOL's weather will do a better job. Since Expedition has a weather animation feature, (once you do a route you can play it back on real time with time steps of 1 minute) it was easy to see that Expedition's weather interpolation scheme is pretty close if not equal to SOL's. Sailplanner also has that weather animation feature, if you move the slider you can see how it all plays out, albeit in 10 minute time steps. But prior experience with Sailplanner is that the weather sometimes has huge differences with SOL's weather specially in light air, and when the wind shifts quickly. Supposedly with the new weather processing upgrades at SOL, Sailplanner's weather will be more "SOL-like" :). But what about Bluewater? As part of my two boat testing program I took a route that was routed using Expedition, and exported that route into Bluewater (waypoints only). Bluewater then recalculated all route data. I was extremely surprised to see that Bluewater's weather interpolation scheme is nearly IDENTICAL to Expedition and SOL. Since Bluewater does not have a weather animation feature (well it does but it's in 3 hour time steps!!) this is harder to visualize. However, you can't argue with the printed output!! Attached is a copy of the file.

Cheers!
Attachments
Two things affect SP interpolation in comparison to SOL:

1) SP does not interpolate the "wind maps" *at all*, it will only show each "frame" of the weather file. This is intentional so that SP will never show you phenomena that is only artifacts of interpolation. Note however that the SP routing continuously interpolates the weather.

2) If the weather areas in SOL and SP doesn't exactly match, you might be dealing with different resolution of the weather.

--- Last Edited by Kalle Haglunds at 2010-07-21 09:05:50 ---
Hi Kalle!

You just confused the heck out of me now... Hehehe! Question, if SP does no weather interpolation and you only have exact grib values on a roughly 2.5 degrees x 2.5 degrees grid, how does SP "fill out" the rest of the space on the map?

I raise this question, because the first time I really noticed a big discrepancy between SOL and SP was during the Inport Quingdao Race ....

Posted by
Exmeromotu
Posts
35
Registered at
2008-12-10 15:22:17
2009-02-09 13:33:24 - Weather Forecasts in Client vs. Sailplanner [ Edit ] [ Quote ]
Hi! During th Qingdao Inport Race I noticed some pretty big differences on the weather forecasts between sailplanner and the game. Aren't they using the same weather provider?


Posted by
Jakob Kuttenkeuler

Posts
355
Registered at
2007-09-04 10:05:30

2009-02-09 14:01:47 - Re: Weather Forecasts in Client vs. Sailplanner [ Quote ]
Yes, they are both NOAA, GFS forecasts. However, in the game we interpolate more than we do in Sailplanner. There is the difference, especially in occasions where large changes (gradients) are present in strength/direction.

...one of the guys behind the game...

That was my question and Jakob's answer more than a year ago...

Cheers

--- Last Edited by Exmeromotu at 2010-07-21 12:00:03 ---
Sorry I should have been more clear: For the weather maps, SP does not interpolate in *time*, it does interpolate over area.

Please login to post a reply.

Races

Next Race: 00d 00h 00m


Current Races:

Kamchatsky to Tromsoe 2024

Just before the light failed entirely in Antarctica, Skip Novak managed to get his Pelagic 77 out of the ice and north up the Pacific to Kamchatsky. The sun is shining (24/7) and not a penguin to be seen, and Skip believes the Norh East Passage is ice-free (sufficiently) to attempt it, so all aboard for a c 4250nm voyage from east to west across the top of Siberia, Russia and Norway to Tromsoe!
Race #1779
INFOby brainaid.de
Pelagic 77 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: HLAT - SYC
Race starts: Jul 18th 19:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Cowes to St Malo TIMED Race 2024

Organized by the Royal Ocean Racing Club since 1929, the Cowes to St Malo Race is a true RORC Classic. Starting from the Royal Yacht Squadron Line, Cowes, IOW, a magnificent spectacle can be watched from The Parade, Cowes. The Cowes to St Malo Race is part of the RORC Season’s Points Championship, the world’s largest offshore racing series. Dating back to 1906, the Cowes to St Malo Race precedes all of the world’s famous races including the Fastnet Race. This is a TIMEDrace, so you may RE-REGISTER HERE to try again, after finishing a run. You will have 13 days and 11 hours to show your skill and decision making after the race opens.
Race #1828
INFOby brainaid.de
TP-52 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
TRQ3 - TRCH - SUPSOL - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Saturday,
27 July at 23:00 UTC
Race starts: Jul 14th 12:00 Registration Open!

▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Lake Ontario 300 Challenge 2024

Lake Ontario Offshore Racing (LOOR) welcomes Sailonline to a second race of their annual series, this time as hosts of the virtual LO300. As the name implies, the LO300 is a 300nm offshore race across the length and breadth of Lake Ontario, from and back to Port Credit YC. Once again, as is our wont on Lake Ontario, a fleet of Beneteau First 36.7s is being made available to virtual racers. There is an overall prize for the SOLer who best bosses Lake Ontario over the two races hosted on SOL, this 300 and the Susan Hood raced back in May; so let the competition be fierce!
Race #1805
INFOby brainaid.de
First 36.7 PARTICULARS
NAM_AWIP WX Updates:
0245 / 0845 / 1445 / 2045
Ranking: LOOR - SYC
Race starts: Jul 13th 15:10 Registration Open!

▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

SSANZ Triple Series 2024 - Race 1


Welcome once again to our online buddied Short-handed Sailing Association of New Zealand brilliant long-standing SSANZ Triple Series for two-handed yachts on the waters of the Hauraki Gulf, sponsored this year by Lewmar Marine. Commencing with a c 46nm quick dash out to Motuora Island via The Haystack and home, we will as always compete in virtual Young88s, against the real-life fleet of the members of the ever-Young 88 Association!!
Race #1823
INFO by brainaid.de
Young 88 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SSANZ - SYC
Race starts: Jul 12th 21:15 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Tall Ships Races 2024 - Tallinn to Turku


Welcome to the second of three virtual Tall Ships Races on the Baltic Sea which are concurrently being organized in-real-life Sail Training International . This second race is from Tallinn, Estonia to Turku, Finland; circa 150nm in Sailonline’s stately Full Rigger.
NOTE: Starts and Finishes in tall ships racing are always offshore to avoid conflict with shipping and shipping lanes.
Race #1812
INFO by brainaid.de
Full Rigger PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: TS - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Friday,
July 19 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Jul 11th 14:00 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Southampton to Punta del Este 2024

Sailonline is delighted to offer our sailors a 'reversed' Atlantic ocean race. As the RTW championship Atlantic part takes a detour to the Bahamas, we will offer you a reversed course as we will not do the 'usual' leg this year either. It is the July edition of this year's Ocean Championship. Our boat is the OD_65v3.
PRIZE: SMPF
Race# 1820
INFO from brainaid.de
OD65 PARTICULARS
WX updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: OCQ3 - OCCH - SUPSOL - SYC
Race starts: Jul 01st 11:00 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Go to race archive

SYC Ranking

  1. Sailonline Yacht Club Member WRmirekd
  2. Sailonline Yacht Club Member FreyjaUSA
  3. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CriticalHippo
  4. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Vida_Maldita
  5. Sailonline Yacht Club Member rafa
  6. Sailonline Yacht Club Member TarassBoulba
  7. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Flamingo
  8. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CollegeFund
  9. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Sax747
  10. Sailonline Yacht Club Member bonknhoot

View full list

Series

Mobile Client

SYC members have the benefit of access to our mobile/lightweight web client!

The mobile client