Facebook

Login

Support Sailonline

If you haven't already - join the SAILONLINE YACHT CLUB!

Please also consider making a donation - all amounts are greatly appreciated!

Board » Technical Support » Bluewater soft

Page: 1 2 3 4 Next

Posted by
Joshua_Pig


Users avatar

Posts
22
Registered at
2009-09-25 16:58:15
2010-07-17 12:28:22 - Bluewater soft
I'm trying to make BW work but can't get anything from the fonction "optimize" except a straight line.
Polar seem ok, but whatever the grib file I load, when I press on right button of the mouse, I have the following message : "Wind out of bounds"
I tried to load grib files from Ugrib, zygrib and Brains'site, result is the same.
Thanks in advance
Posted by
Exmeromotu


Users avatar

Posts
71
Registered at
2008-12-10 15:22:17
2010-07-17 14:09:13 - Re: Bluewater soft
Josh,

Once you have loaded the polar file, you also have to specify it on the actual route you're using. Check that the route you're optimizing has the name of the polar beside on the Route Manager window. If it doesn,t go to the Route Options window for the route you want to optimize and write the name of the polar file you want to use. See attached picture.

Hope this helps!

Regards
Attachments
Posted by
Joshua_Pig


Users avatar

Posts
22
Registered at
2009-09-25 16:58:15
2010-07-17 17:22:39 - Re: Bluewater soft
Thank you Exmer, you were right, the polar's name was missing, but also some values were not correct for this small map.

I changed them as per your exemple and it's now working.

But I still don't understand why I don't have wind values (wind out of bounds) and how to compare with datas in Sol game ?

I also don't know what the values in nav. details refer to... for example GC Crs and Rh Crs... Avg K don't correspond with my actual speed... I thought I would find a cc value or a twa to follow, but nothing !

Is it correct ?

Thanks again
Posted by
Exmeromotu


Users avatar

Posts
71
Registered at
2008-12-10 15:22:17
2010-07-17 19:39:05 - Re: Bluewater soft
Joshua,

Try capturing your screen and uploading the picture, that way I can understand the problem better. On the current Ouzo race it is very hard to get an out of bounds error!!

Make sure to set Bluewater to give the output in True degrees not Magnetic!! Here's an example of my output for the last part of the Ouzo race. See also attached picture The output does not give you a TWA but it does give you the TWD and the course to follow so you can compute TWA if you want to. The GC Crs (Great Circle Course) and the Rh Crs (Rhumbline Course) should be the same when the grid is small. This is the course to follow. Look at the ETA column there you have the time to use for DC's and use either GC Crs or Rh Crs as the course. At the far right (you have to open the Details window large enough) you will find the Wind info. TWD first then TWS. The AVG K column is the boatspeed for that section of route.

Hope this helps!

Regard
Attachments
Posted by
Joshua_Pig


Users avatar

Posts
22
Registered at
2009-09-25 16:58:15
2010-07-17 21:49:42 - Re: Bluewater soft
Many thanks Exmer, you answered to all my questions :)

Now I understand better, even if BW is crashing again and again... don't know why, maybe values in time and distances resolution ?

I shall try again tomorrow morning.

Have a good night, hope to "see" you soon
Posted by
Exmeromotu


Users avatar

Posts
71
Registered at
2008-12-10 15:22:17
2010-07-17 22:24:04 - Re: Bluewater soft
Josh,

BW crashes a lot on me too! I discovered that if in the route options I only select the route to be visible, ( no isochrones, no reverse isochrones) then it crashes less often using small grid dimensions...

Cheers!
Posted by
Joshua_Pig


Users avatar

Posts
22
Registered at
2009-09-25 16:58:15
2010-07-18 07:45:29 - Re: Bluewater soft
Ok, I cancel isochrones (never seen anyway...)

Trying BW on Sunday Scurry, I have the following discrepancies in wind : value on Sol are 19,1 knts and 329 deg. whereas BW gives me 27 knts and 343 deg.

Printscreen enclosed
Attachments
Posted by
Exmeromotu


Users avatar

Posts
71
Registered at
2008-12-10 15:22:17
2010-07-18 13:40:44 - Re: Bluewater soft
Hi Josh,

I missed the start for Sunday Scurry (preferred to sleep ;)) anyways on your route options window you have a start time of 10:00:00 while your ouput says you start at 08:00 Z ? To avoid any confusion I always put the date and the time on the Route Options window that way the program knows exactly which grib file sequence to use.

Regards,
Posted by
Joshua_Pig


Users avatar

Posts
22
Registered at
2009-09-25 16:58:15
2010-07-18 15:07:22 - Re: Bluewater soft
Hi Exmer :)

About Sunday Scurry, you didn't miss anything...

I entered my local time because I read this :

"A time without a Z is interpreted as being in the time zone of
the computer (ship's time)"

So I suppose it is the same, but not sure...

Anyway, the real problem I have with grib files loaded from Brain's site is that twd and tws are incorrect. I tried to calculate mentionning @now as start time and it is still as wrong as in my example.

Will try with ugrib to see if there is a difference.

See you

Edit : A bit less wrong with Ugrib files but still useless... After Maui race Brain told us that he would try to make his grib file work with BW... don't know what happened after that !

--- Last Edited by FR Joshua74 Reva at 2010-07-18 15:20:45 ---
Posted by
Exmeromotu


Users avatar

Posts
71
Registered at
2008-12-10 15:22:17
2010-07-18 17:53:17 - Re: Bluewater soft
Josh,

I noticed during the Ouzo race, that the weather from the cursor (screen) was totally different that the weather from the SOL's "instruments". Not sure why. However the weather readings from the SOL's instruments matched perfectly with those from Expedition and Bluewater, and of course the boat "sails" with the weather from the instruments, not the weather shown on screen. Maybe this was happening in todays Scurry race too. I will give the Scurry race a look to see if this was happening today also.

Regards,

Toño

Page: 1 2 3 4 Next

Please login to post a reply.

Races

Next Race: 00d 00h 00m

Current Races:

Newport Bermuda Race 2026


The 636-mile Newport Bermuda Race is one of the oldest regularly scheduled ocean races, and with the Fastnet and the Sydney Hobart Race, it is one of the three great classic races of the yachting world. First raced in 1906, now in its 54th biennial, the Race can again also be participated in online. In real life, the race is open to entry in four different division – Double-Handed, St. David's Lighthouse, Gibbs Hill Lighthouse, and Finisterre Division – which in the past we have also offered online. This year, however, our online race will be all-in one-design in silky swift Club Swan 50 yachts, so that your results can count towards SOL’s SUPerBUDdy title, whilst hopefully still giving you a chance of overall line honours against the fastest yachts of the real-life Gibbs Hill Division, especially if you can find some forecast winds that don’t quite work out that way on the real water!
Race #2038
INFOby brainaid.de
Club Swan 50 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SUPBUD - SYC
Race starts: Jun 19th 17:05 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Shetland Race 2026 - Leg 1


Get ready to tackle the North Sea as we sail from Norway’s stunning outer Korsfjorden to the rugged Shetland Isles! Welcome to an exciting new chapter for this classic 190-nautical-mile ocean route, bringing our global community together for a true test of strategy and seamanship.

This year, the race is a proud stop in Sailonline's 2026 Super Buddy Championship, which features our real-life racing partnerships over the calendar year. We are stepping aboard the Linjett 33, a sturdy Swedish cruiser-racer designed by Mats Gustavsson and built by Rosättra Båtvarv. Seasoned veteran or eager newcomer, prepare for intense competition.

Plot your course and see you at the start line!
Race #2039
INFO by brainaid.de
Linjett 33 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SHE - RED - SUPBUD - SYC
Race starts: Jun 17th 11:00 Registration will open soon
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Bluefin Tuna - Mexico Gulf to North Sea 2026

Join us and follow the Bluefin Tuna, as they migrate from their spawning grounds in the Gulf of Mexico to their feeding grounds in the North Sea off the coast of Norway. This 4300 nm race is part of our Ocean Championship and the final race of OCQ2 2026, and also the second leg of our Migration series. We will be sailing in our Gunboat 90. Race #2035
INFO by brainaid.de
Gunboat 90 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: OCQ2 - MIG - OCCH - SYC
Race starts: Jun 08th 11:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Thessaloniki to Port Said 2026

Welcome back to the Eastern Mediterranean for the fifth race of our Magical Mediterranean Series. Only marginally less unlikely to be ever raced in real life during SOL’s lifetime than our previous race from Tobruk to Iskenderun, this 710nm race takes us from Greece’s ancient northern port of Thessaloniki through the Aegean island maze, south east into the Levantine Sea to a finish in modern Port Said, in splendid Swan 65s!
Race #1977
INFO by brainaid.de
Swan 65 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: MED - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Wednesday,
June 17 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Jun 06th 15:00 Registration Closed

▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

TuziTekwini TIMED Race 2026

Sailonline is delighted to have been invited again to partner with the King Shaka Yacht Club (KSYC) of South Africa to bring a virtual version of the Tuzi Tekwini Ocean Raceto our online community.
The Tuzi Tekwini Ocean Race is a near 90 nautical mile race down the east coast of South Africa from the port of Richards Bay to the port of Durban. Achievable in a single day and seen by some as an easy mile-builder, the course is more tactical than some think and should not be underestimated. This iconic race promises to be an unforgettable experience for yachting enthusiasts.
Our online version of the race will be a TIMEDrace so you may RE-REGISTER HEREto try again after finishing a run. You will have two weeks to test your skill and decision making after the race opens.
Race #2037
INFOby brainaid.de
Sailonline’s virtual yacht for all your runs will be our much-loved Farr 38 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
TRQ2 - TRCH - SUPBUD - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Saturday,
13 June at 23:00 UTC
Race starts: May 31st 12:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Go to race archive

SYC Ranking

  1. Sailonline Yacht Club Member WRmirekd
  2. Sailonline Yacht Club Member KaSToR
  3. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CriticalHippo
  4. Sailonline Yacht Club Member bonknhoot
  5. Sailonline Yacht Club Member rafa
  6. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Panpyc
  7. Sailonline Yacht Club Member HoratioPugwash
  8. Sailonline Yacht Club Member YANN
  9. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CollegeFund
  10. Sailonline Yacht Club Member sassy63

View full list

Series

Mobile Client

SYC members have the benefit of access to our mobile/lightweight web client!

The mobile client