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2010-03-15 21:08:57 - Mark Rounding San Juan
"Regarding the skippers who made an unconventional rounding in the San Juan race, they will not be punished since that type of rounding is explicitly allowed in our current rules as written."

You say the above, so why was there a arrow pointing us to keep the island to port?
Which some sailors did do, so they are being PUNISHED for following it!
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2010-03-16 12:55:25 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
The answer I got was that they are there to show the order for "rounding" marks. This of course makes little to no sense as the path shows the order and one would think the arrows show direction. I read the manual very carefully and I don't see how the wording makes any of this clear at all. Of course this is all moot as in reality you don't need to round marks at all. Rounding by definition implies going around, when in fact all one has to to is trigger the software by being on the back side of the marker while travelling in any direction, and then one is free to continue the course.

If the news on the home page is followed through then I think SOL will be repairing the race rules in a very responsible manner. I hope it can be done expediently.

In the mean time I will be rounding marks as if real sailing. The focus of SOL according to the home page is realism, and this is why I have come over from Virtual Regatta. I hope all attempts possible to model after real sailboat racing continue.
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2010-03-16 13:27:51 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
I agree mark rounding was an issue and I am happy that Kalle has worked something out so ensure correct direction of the rounding.

Nevertheless, as SOL is a game (even if many, me included, take it very seriously), I would suggest to keep low the tones of the polemics. It has happened that some races have been decided by a DNS error, a network glitch (remember that 76?) or by an impossible passage discovered by someone.

As there will always be a next race there is really no point in complaining about the software loopholes (no one talking about SLI jumping?? To me it is exactly the improper as this kind of mark rounding, but many still make attempts to it).

Having said that, rude language is never welcome between sailors and their lurking young relatives. But it can end with an apology and a chilled beer :)
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2010-03-16 13:53:27 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
Instead of working with arrows, why not working with numbers like it was in the past to give the correct order of followng the waypoints. The direction of rounding can be given by arrows AND text.
Together with solving the bug by Jacob, there should be no misunderstanding of rounding WP any more.
I rounded the WP the same way as Incognito did, after the discussion started I returned back to the WP and waited till the first "normal" rounder arrived before continuing the race because I found Victory has a point there. After all I ended 17th...
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2010-03-16 14:34:21 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
We are working on a solution where arrows will remain AND will be reinforced by the server. I think that will solve this issue :-) /Jakob
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2010-03-16 16:27:10 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
ITA My daughters dont "lurk" they actually play the game!!!And do very well I might add. considering they have never sailed!!
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2010-03-16 16:27:12 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
ITA My daughters dont "lurk" they actually play the game!!!And do very well I might add. Considering they have never sailed!!

--- Last Edited by victory at 2010-03-16 16:28:01 ---
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2010-03-16 16:28:25 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
victory said @ 2010-03-16 16:27:12:
ITA My daughters dont "lurk" they actually play the game!!!And do very well I might add. Considering they have never sailed!!

--- Last Edited by victory at 2010-03-16 16:28:01 ---
Sorry about the duplicates

--- Last Edited by victory at 2010-03-16 16:30:36 ---
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2010-03-16 17:23:40 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
victory,
good to hear that your kids are taking part!
i did not mean to diminish their participation as mine was only an example.

good luck to them!
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2010-03-17 03:14:24 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
Disclaimer: I did not race in the San Juan event, so anything I say here is without the benefit of actually reading anything that was posted in the chat during the race.

I applaud SOL for taking the necessary measures to resolve this issue. I would suggest using the term Clockwise ( CW ) & Counter-clockwise ( CCW ) for Mark rounding.

Secondarily, even though it has not been discussed in this context, I believe SOL should take this opportunity to remove the ability to "backdoor" the finish line.
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