Facebook

Login

Support Sailonline

If you haven't already - join the SAILONLINE YACHT CLUB!

Please also consider making a donation - all amounts are greatly appreciated!

Board » General Discussion » Mark Rounding San Juan

Page: 1 2 3 Next

Posted by
victory


Users avatar

Posts
36
Registered at
2009-04-18 11:37:25
2010-03-15 21:08:57 - Mark Rounding San Juan
"Regarding the skippers who made an unconventional rounding in the San Juan race, they will not be punished since that type of rounding is explicitly allowed in our current rules as written."

You say the above, so why was there a arrow pointing us to keep the island to port?
Which some sailors did do, so they are being PUNISHED for following it!
Posted by
Hirilondë


Users avatar

Posts
48
Registered at
2010-02-22 12:50:31
2010-03-16 12:55:25 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
The answer I got was that they are there to show the order for "rounding" marks. This of course makes little to no sense as the path shows the order and one would think the arrows show direction. I read the manual very carefully and I don't see how the wording makes any of this clear at all. Of course this is all moot as in reality you don't need to round marks at all. Rounding by definition implies going around, when in fact all one has to to is trigger the software by being on the back side of the marker while travelling in any direction, and then one is free to continue the course.

If the news on the home page is followed through then I think SOL will be repairing the race rules in a very responsible manner. I hope it can be done expediently.

In the mean time I will be rounding marks as if real sailing. The focus of SOL according to the home page is realism, and this is why I have come over from Virtual Regatta. I hope all attempts possible to model after real sailboat racing continue.
Posted by
ita10267


Users avatar

Posts
88
Registered at
2008-12-29 10:33:09
2010-03-16 13:27:51 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
I agree mark rounding was an issue and I am happy that Kalle has worked something out so ensure correct direction of the rounding.

Nevertheless, as SOL is a game (even if many, me included, take it very seriously), I would suggest to keep low the tones of the polemics. It has happened that some races have been decided by a DNS error, a network glitch (remember that 76?) or by an impossible passage discovered by someone.

As there will always be a next race there is really no point in complaining about the software loopholes (no one talking about SLI jumping?? To me it is exactly the improper as this kind of mark rounding, but many still make attempts to it).

Having said that, rude language is never welcome between sailors and their lurking young relatives. But it can end with an apology and a chilled beer :)
Posted by
CajunQueen


Users avatar

Posts
24
Registered at
2008-03-03 10:55:35
2010-03-16 13:53:27 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
Instead of working with arrows, why not working with numbers like it was in the past to give the correct order of followng the waypoints. The direction of rounding can be given by arrows AND text.
Together with solving the bug by Jacob, there should be no misunderstanding of rounding WP any more.
I rounded the WP the same way as Incognito did, after the discussion started I returned back to the WP and waited till the first "normal" rounder arrived before continuing the race because I found Victory has a point there. After all I ended 17th...
"Sailing is an Art"
Posted by
jakob


Users avatar

Posts
364
Registered at
2007-09-04 10:05:30
2010-03-16 14:34:21 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
We are working on a solution where arrows will remain AND will be reinforced by the server. I think that will solve this issue :-) /Jakob
...one of the guys behind the game...
Posted by
victory


Users avatar

Posts
36
Registered at
2009-04-18 11:37:25
2010-03-16 16:27:10 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
ITA My daughters dont "lurk" they actually play the game!!!And do very well I might add. considering they have never sailed!!
Posted by
victory


Users avatar

Posts
36
Registered at
2009-04-18 11:37:25
2010-03-16 16:27:12 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
ITA My daughters dont "lurk" they actually play the game!!!And do very well I might add. Considering they have never sailed!!

--- Last Edited by victory at 2010-03-16 16:28:01 ---
Posted by
victory


Users avatar

Posts
36
Registered at
2009-04-18 11:37:25
2010-03-16 16:28:25 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
victory said @ 2010-03-16 16:27:12:
ITA My daughters dont "lurk" they actually play the game!!!And do very well I might add. Considering they have never sailed!!

--- Last Edited by victory at 2010-03-16 16:28:01 ---
Sorry about the duplicates

--- Last Edited by victory at 2010-03-16 16:30:36 ---
Posted by
ita10267


Users avatar

Posts
88
Registered at
2008-12-29 10:33:09
2010-03-16 17:23:40 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
victory,
good to hear that your kids are taking part!
i did not mean to diminish their participation as mine was only an example.

good luck to them!
Posted by
A2


Users avatar

Posts
347
Registered at
2009-10-26 00:39:42
2010-03-17 03:14:24 - Re: Mark Rounding San Juan
Disclaimer: I did not race in the San Juan event, so anything I say here is without the benefit of actually reading anything that was posted in the chat during the race.

I applaud SOL for taking the necessary measures to resolve this issue. I would suggest using the term Clockwise ( CW ) & Counter-clockwise ( CCW ) for Mark rounding.

Secondarily, even though it has not been discussed in this context, I believe SOL should take this opportunity to remove the ability to "backdoor" the finish line.
None so blind

Page: 1 2 3 Next

Please login to post a reply.

Races

Next Race: 00d 00h 00m

Current Races:

Silverrudder 2026


Ahoy, SOLers! Welcome to the 2026 edition of the Silver Rudder – Challenge of the Sea! This epic 125nm single-handed race around Denmark’s island of Funen is back!

Shallow waters and shifting winds await in the world’s largest solo regatta. This year, we return to the popular First 27 solo. This superlight, water-ballasted planing machine features twin rudders and weighs a full tonne lighter than her older stepsisters. Will you master her power where precision counts most?!

It is imperative that you read AND understand these special Starting Conditions for SILVERRUDDER 2026:
Starting Conditions!!

Race #2059
INFO by brainaid.de
First 27 Solo PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC - SUPBUD - RED
Race starts: Sep 18th 08:30 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Isle of Mull TIMED Race 2026

Welcome to the west coast of Scotland for an 80 nm race around the Isle of Mull. Mull is home to castles, distilleries, and the Highland Games. The race begins just north of Oban in the shadow of Dunstaffnage Castle and after rounding the island finishes down the coast at Crinan. The Twister 28 with its classic long keel is the boat for this race.
This is a TIMEDrace so you may RE-REGISTER HEREto try again after finishing a run. You will have two weeks to test your skill and decision making after the race opens.
Race #2057
INFOby brainaid.de
PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
TRQ3 - TRCH - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Saturday,
26 September at 23:00 UTC
Race starts: Sep 13th 12:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Cross the Convergence 2026 - Cocos to Sagar Island


Kapil Muni, incarnation of Lord Vishnu, founder of the Samkhya school of philosophy, disturbed from his meditation, in his wrath reduced the 60,000 sons of Sagar to ashes, as they dug the earth to retrieve the sacrificial horse that Lord Indra, the king of the Gods, stole off Sagar, thus creating the Sagara (ocean). Aeons later, Bhagiratha, a descendant of Sagara, asked Ganga to cleanse the ashes of the 60,000 princes, and her resultant torrential fall from heaven created the great river and where it met the ocean, the princes’ souls were washed and raised to heaven and Gangasagar (Sagar Island) was formed. So, let us join the pilgrimages to Kapi Muni’s Temple (see above) and race 2400nm from Cocos Island deep in the Sagara thence, in rather rapid Rapido 60s.
Race #1987
INFOby brainaid.de
Rapido 60PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: CCZ - SYC
Race starts: Sep 11th 18:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Shearwater - Rio de la Plata to Irish Sea 2026

Welcome to the fourth leg of our MIG series. This time we're racing the Sooty Shearwater on their migration from the breeding grounds in South America to the northern Atlantic. This is also part of our Ocean Championship, and as such the third race of OCQ3 2026. This race will be sailed in our Gunboat 90. Race #2055
INFO by brainaid.de
GunBoat 90 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
OCQ3 - OCCH - SYC - MIG
Race starts: Sep 02nd 11:00 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Go to race archive

SYC Ranking

  1. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CriticalHippo
  2. Sailonline Yacht Club Member KaSToR
  3. Sailonline Yacht Club Member WRmirekd
  4. Sailonline Yacht Club Member rafa
  5. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Panpyc
  6. Sailonline Yacht Club Member cdhinman
  7. Sailonline Yacht Club Member rthinman
  8. Sailonline Yacht Club Member BRENTGRAY
  9. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Sax747
  10. Sailonline Yacht Club Member vida

View full list

Series

Mobile Client

SYC members have the benefit of access to our mobile/lightweight web client!

The mobile client