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2014-11-12 13:39:16 - Re: Sailors with routers
I propose we introduce three classes - novice, intermediate, and advanced - and that SOLers choose their class before the start of the race.

I have 40 years of real life yacht racing experience but in my first SOL race I was clearly a 'novice'. As an experienced ocean racer with a strong interest in navigation and tactics I soon saw myself as 'experienced' and simply wanted to race alongside the best ... even if I do keep getting beaten.

Depending on the level of past experience and weather/nav knowledge some may simply settle in at the novice or intermediate levels. And that is a perfectly reasonable place to be.

At the top level I think we may need to separate out those using a full 'autopilot' arrangement. But then again, IRL a good navigator/tactician can give instructions to the helmsman and crew covering the next six hours and that's going to be better than an autopilot anyway. Maybe copmetitors should be expected to carry a flag when the autopilot is engaged.
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2014-12-17 17:45:12 - Re: Sailors with routers
outlaw, ita and others have said what's needed to say about this. I have a question to those opposed to routing or want a routing/no routing class: Do you use the predictor? If you do, you should be in the routing class, because that's what it is.
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2014-12-17 18:34:24 - Re: Sailors with routers
Predictor line is not a router. The router provides the user from point A to point B the turning points and direction to the next point. There can be several turnign points. And points A and B can be adjusted to a desired location. And remember, router do not set these points A and B. User has to know where to go and set points! If you think it is easy, try ones.

Too complicated for me, and that's why I do not use them. Or I'm just too lazy to learn. . . :)

I use wxinspector for helping me to see isochrones and optimal angles.

And I really don't understand why would we need different "class" for router users/not router users.

I think we are all in same boat . . . :)
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2014-12-17 19:34:36 - Re: Sailors with routers
@ Smo:
did it VERY recently ;)

As soon as RC will get all the report organized you will see what I means.
Ciao
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2014-12-30 23:45:18 - Re: Sailors with routers
So... I made this:
http://sol.kroppyer.nl/flagpole/

You can create flags, hoist flags on you boat in a particular race. And you can view rankings of people with the same flags. I made a SOTP flag. You can hoist this flag if you don't use routing software, and then you can be (unofficially) ranked in the group of boats that fly a SOTP flag.

Here is the flagpole of my boat in the xmas2xmas race.

here is a ranking of all boats flying a SOTP flag in the xmas2xmas race.

The flagpole is meant to be a bit of fun and an experiment, not necessarily as a solution to the problems discussed in this thread.
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2015-01-02 16:50:25 - Re: Sailors with routers
I'd be ok to change my name to karriv_R to indicate that I use a router. If that was not clear to everyone sofar;)
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I'm right.

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