Facebook

Login

Support Sailonline

If you haven't already - join the SAILONLINE YACHT CLUB!

Please also consider making a donation - all amounts are greatly appreciated!

Board » General Discussion » Sailors with routers

Page: Previous 1 2 3 4 5

I propose we introduce three classes - novice, intermediate, and advanced - and that SOLers choose their class before the start of the race.

I have 40 years of real life yacht racing experience but in my first SOL race I was clearly a 'novice'. As an experienced ocean racer with a strong interest in navigation and tactics I soon saw myself as 'experienced' and simply wanted to race alongside the best ... even if I do keep getting beaten.

Depending on the level of past experience and weather/nav knowledge some may simply settle in at the novice or intermediate levels. And that is a perfectly reasonable place to be.

At the top level I think we may need to separate out those using a full 'autopilot' arrangement. But then again, IRL a good navigator/tactician can give instructions to the helmsman and crew covering the next six hours and that's going to be better than an autopilot anyway. Maybe copmetitors should be expected to carry a flag when the autopilot is engaged.
outlaw, ita and others have said what's needed to say about this. I have a question to those opposed to routing or want a routing/no routing class: Do you use the predictor? If you do, you should be in the routing class, because that's what it is.
Predictor line is not a router. The router provides the user from point A to point B the turning points and direction to the next point. There can be several turnign points. And points A and B can be adjusted to a desired location. And remember, router do not set these points A and B. User has to know where to go and set points! If you think it is easy, try ones.

Too complicated for me, and that's why I do not use them. Or I'm just too lazy to learn. . . :)

I use wxinspector for helping me to see isochrones and optimal angles.

And I really don't understand why would we need different "class" for router users/not router users.

I think we are all in same boat . . . :)
@ Smo:
did it VERY recently ;)

As soon as RC will get all the report organized you will see what I means.
Ciao
So... I made this:
http://sol.kroppyer.nl/flagpole/

You can create flags, hoist flags on you boat in a particular race. And you can view rankings of people with the same flags. I made a SOTP flag. You can hoist this flag if you don't use routing software, and then you can be (unofficially) ranked in the group of boats that fly a SOTP flag.

Here is the flagpole of my boat in the xmas2xmas race.

here is a ranking of all boats flying a SOTP flag in the xmas2xmas race.

The flagpole is meant to be a bit of fun and an experiment, not necessarily as a solution to the problems discussed in this thread.
I'd be ok to change my name to karriv_R to indicate that I use a router. If that was not clear to everyone sofar;)
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I'm right.

Page: Previous 1 2 3 4 5

Please login to post a reply.

Races

Next Race: 00d 00h 00m


Current Races:

Magical Mediterranean 2026 - Benghazi to Korcula

We return to Antiquity’s Middle Sea for a seventh celebration of all things Mediterranean - fickle winds, history and olive oil. This time we will sail from ancient Benghazi, whence once grain shipped continuously to feed Rome’s urban masses, to the medieval Venetian thalassocracy’s port of Korcula, birthplace of Marco Polo; 700nm in classy Club Swan 50s!
Race #1978
INFO by brainaid.de
Club Swan 50 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: MED - SYC
Race starts: Jul 27th 15:00 Registration Open!

▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Red Eye 2026 - Georgian Bay

Welcome to the sensational scenic Georgian Bay of northern Lake Huron, the first area of the Great Lakes to be visited by Europeans in 1615, so former SOLer A2R informed us when he designed this geometrically tortuous course of 317nm criss-cross through its island maze. Originally known as Lake Manitoulin, in 1822 the bay was renamed after King George IV after his succession to the throne. This time we’ll take the very flashy Fareast 31R, which hopefully should keep you wide awake!
Race #2051
INFOby brainaid.de
Fareast 31R PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: RED - SYC
Race starts: Jul 26th 08:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Tall Ships 2026 - Stavanger to Aalborg


Welcome to the fourth of four virtual Tall Ships Races in European waters which are concurrently being organized in-real-life by Sail Training International . This fourth race is from Stavanger in Norway into the Skaggerak to a finish off Denmark’s Aalborg and perhaps an Aquavit to toast the adventure afterwards – a final circa 250nm in Sailonline’s classic Clipper 240.
NOTE: Starts and Finishes in tall ships racing are always offshore to avoid conflict with shipping and shipping lanes; online and real-life may not match exactly.
Race #1995
INFO by brainaid.de
Clipper 240 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: TSI - SUPBUD - SYC
Race starts: Jul 25th 16:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Chinook Salmon - Canada to Andreanovs


A year after spawning in the upper reaches of the rivers of British Columbia, Chinook Salmon develop the age-old urge, so familiar to SOLers, to go to sea, heading for different parts of the northern Pacific Ocean. This race catches up with a particular school with an instinctive memory for the Andreanov Islands far west on the Aleutian Islands chain, as they depart the Salian Sea between Vancouver Island and the San Juans. It’s 2200nm and we’re taking the 60ft Trimaran, in the hope we can keep up!
Race #2048
INFOby brainaid.de
60ft Trimaran PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: MIG - SYC
Race starts: Jul 21st 11:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Juventud TIMED Race 2026

Welcome to Isla de la Juventud (Isle of Youth), Cuba’s second largest island after mainland Cuba. Known as a haven for pirates, the island was the inspiration for novels “Treasure Island” and “Peter Pan”. The circa 120nm course runs clockwise around the island.
This is a TIMEDrace so you may RE-REGISTER HEREto try again after finishing a run. You will have two weeks to test your skill and decision making after the race opens.
Race #2049
INFOby brainaid.de
The boat for this race is the sporty Mini 6.5p Foil PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
TRQ3 - TRCH - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Saturday,
1 August at 23:00 UTC
Race starts: Jul 19th 12:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Alaska to Easter Island 2026

Welcome to yet another all-new series. The initial leg of the RNW (Round the New World), Alaska to Easter Island, also part of our Ocean Championship. The first race of OCQ3 2026. This race will be sailed in our revised 'version 2' Imoca 60 Foil. Race #2042
INFO by brainaid.de
Imoca 60 Foil v2 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: OCQ3 - RNW - OCCH - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Saturday,
August 1 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Jul 06th 11:00 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Go to race archive

SYC Ranking

  1. Sailonline Yacht Club Member KaSToR
  2. Sailonline Yacht Club Member WRmirekd
  3. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CriticalHippo
  4. Sailonline Yacht Club Member cdhinman
  5. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Panpyc
  6. Sailonline Yacht Club Member bonknhoot
  7. Sailonline Yacht Club Member rafa
  8. Sailonline Yacht Club Member ms0689
  9. Sailonline Yacht Club Member ita10267
  10. Sailonline Yacht Club Member sassy63

View full list

Series

Mobile Client

SYC members have the benefit of access to our mobile/lightweight web client!

The mobile client