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2012-07-03 19:00:30 - Re: Transatlantique 2012
Like the sound of this - please just keep in mind starting under DC etc. tacking down the river may be a bit off-putting for guys in the other time zones
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2012-07-03 22:55:17 - Re: Transatlantique 2012
Yeah the start is a doozy. One of the Class 40s last race counted 52 tacks in the first 210nm. Think of how good it would feel when it stops :-D

It's important that everyone have fun.

On the other hand, the river section should take 3 days or so, so it's pretty equal opportunity in terms of time zones. I just ran routing using current conditions and almost the whole run out to the gulf is an easy broad reach. Typically, only one shoreline would really come into play, so the sense of constriction is a bit deceptive - in practice not *so* much different than tacking along an open coastline.

RC, confirmed that the real race in 2008 did start at 12:00 local.
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2012-07-04 17:37:48 - Re: Transatlantique 2012
Sorry 76T, just home etc. I accept what you say, especially "have fun" - strange, the rest of the fleet are silent?
my 9c worth - prefer Rumb line to positions
Looking forward to this one!
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2012-07-05 17:47:37 - Re: Transatlantique 2012
Oops, must have crossed the"decorum" line
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2012-07-06 00:43:50 - Re: Transatlantique 2012
Just giving the others a chance to chip in ;-)

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2012-07-06 01:46:12 - Re: Transatlantique 2012
In the real race the purpose of the six buoys is to ensure that the boats pass close to six towns along the river. This is to create spectator events in the towns. The last of these town/buoys is Percé. There are no marks on the south of Newfoundland.

Why do we have here only two marks along the south bank of the river, which tend to force us away from the shore? Why are there also two marks on the south of Newfoundland?
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2012-07-06 03:32:50 - Re: Transatlantique 2012
Thanks Jack!

The six marks are a bit of a puzzle to me, and if anyone can dig up extra info it would be great! I read it the same way you do - and rounding marks to force the boats close to shore is certainly the way I'd set up the irl course, but the language is a bit vague. The only "buoy" that seems to have been used as a shore-gate in the past was at Rimouski - the tracks in 2008 skip the others.

The SOL rounding scheme introduces some extra complications (we could do close-to-shore roundings at Malbaie, Gaspé and Percé but not Matane or Ste Anne). Currently the two towns shown just refine the rhumbline/ranking in the SOL client without restricting the course.

We can modify the course within the limits of SOL's rules. The trade-off I guess is a little bit easier vs more accurate. One day we'll be able to set up gates properly.

The marks south of Newfoundland are the (France) French islands of St Pierre and Miquelon. The fleet passes between them.
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2012-07-06 08:54:06 - Re: Transatlantique 2012
6-towns 6-buoys

start @ 11:00 Local time (15:00 UTC) 22/7/12:
start

Found map here that shows going between the islands south of Newfoundland:
the race
(it also shows, I think, the multihull route going up to the Irish Coast to leave Fastnet Is. to Starboard)
Of course the same page says that the boats are allowed to only carry 3 liters of drinking water per person for the estimated duration of the race. I assume someone misread the rules, and in actuality, the requirement is 3 liters per day per crew member for the estimated duration of the race.
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2012-07-10 22:35:35 - Re: Transatlantique 2012
I am now going to close the preview until we need the race :-)

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