Sailonline.org - Online Sailing

Facebook

Login

Support Sailonline

If you haven't already - join the SAILONLINE YACHT CLUB!

Please also consider making a donation - all amounts are greatly appreciated!

Tweets by @sailonline

Board » Flag Officers » Race proposals » Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)

Posted by Vince Nel (WW) Posts 101 Registered at 2011-11-05 09:30:13	2012-02-15 16:45:38 - Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
	What about the Classic Whitbread race - 85/86 edition that has epic legs or the 89/90 race. I am waiting for a reply from Farr to see if they will forward me the polar for Steinlager II in full Whitbread trim. Jeroen suggested that we can run this on alternate years when we are not doing the SWR I like to talk a lot... sometimes I even make sense, mostly not...
Posted by Vince Nel (WW) Posts 101 Registered at 2011-11-05 09:30:13	2012-02-15 16:46:03 - Re: Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
	No worries Vince. Our polars for the boat are buried deep in storage, but I have contacted the Navigator onboard for that race and he is going to send them to me when he gets back to NZL around the 21st of this month. I hope this will work for you. Also, please remind me around that time to follow up if you have not heard back from me. Cheers, Ian From: Vince Nel [mailto:vince@darcstudio3d.co.za] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:55 AM To: Ian Gordon Subject: RE: Steinlager II Polars Good day Ian. If you can locate that polar I’ll owe you a ton of gratitude that I cannot repay in this lifetime. Having this polar will be the closest thing guys like myself will get to actually seeing (let alone sailing) her in real life. To quantify this: It’s like receiving an autographed expedition notes of the Everest expedition by Sir Edmund Hillary… handed over in person. There are few out there who follow sailing or know something about sailing that has not heard of Steinlager II… Arguably the most famous boat of the last 30 years… America also comes to mind… Thanks a ton for the effort, it will be richly appreciated by myself and SOL members alike. Regards. Vince From: Ian Gordon Sent: 14 February 2012 06:35 PM To: vince@darcstudio3d.co.za Subject: Steinlager II Polars Vince, We are looking around for this info. It is not easily coming up but we will work on it. Please give me a little bit of time. Best regards, Ian Ian Gordon Sales and Marketing Farr Yacht Sales, LLC --- Last Edited by WetWing at 2012-02-15 16:12:53 --- I like to talk a lot... sometimes I even make sense, mostly not...
Posted by Vince Nel (WW) Posts 101 Registered at 2011-11-05 09:30:13	2012-02-16 10:18:29 - Re: Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
	Maybe this could be of help... I have the real polars of Belmont Finland II (ex. UBS Switzerland) from the 89-90 race, recorded into a Macintosh SE30 while sailing the race. I collected the polars through MacSea, and used them to "tune" the VPP I was writing at the time. As I recall, Steinlager was roughly 1-1,5 hours in 24 hours faster than Belmont, which made the race on Belmont rather a frustrating experience. On the other hand, as the race was no issue, I had plenty of time to collect the polars and work on my VPP . Here's a plot of the polars, I don't seem to find the numbers now, but I probably could get you the same in numbers by running the VPP again Mikko Brummer. (Crew member onBelmont Finland II) Whitbread 89 - 90 --- Last Edited by WetWing at 2012-02-16 10:21:41 --- I like to talk a lot... sometimes I even make sense, mostly not... Attachments PICT_Belmont_polars.pdf (13.5 KB)
Posted by Vince Nel (WW) Posts 101 Registered at 2011-11-05 09:30:13	2012-02-23 06:26:29 - Re: Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
	Ok, I have laid my hands on that long awaited polar of Steinlager II in Whitbread trim. Thanks to Ian Gordon of Farr for this little gem! Now to get their actual course from somewhere... I like to talk a lot... sometimes I even make sense, mostly not... Attachments SC253_C253012022308360_1.pdf (1.5 MB)
Posted by Svein Posts 84 Registered at 2009-05-04 15:09:20	2012-02-23 14:57:09 - Re: Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
	Great work WW. I have massaged the data to txt-format Attachments Steinlager_2.txt (772 bytes)
Posted by 76Trombones Posts 362 Registered at 2009-08-03 18:04:56	2012-02-23 15:50:44 - Re: Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
	Gorgeous polar WW, and nice work!
Posted by ShamrockPirate Posts 189 Registered at 2010-12-03 17:49:57	2012-02-25 23:13:39 - Re: Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
	Well Done, WW Here is the polar view in PE. Not sure how to clean up the boat speed indicators. SP Attachments Steinlager_Polar.png (60.8 KB)

Please login to post a reply.

Races

Next Race: 00d 00h 00m

Current Races:

Kamchatsky to Tromsoe 2024

Just before the light failed entirely in Antarctica, Skip Novak managed to get his Pelagic 77 out of the ice and north up the Pacific to Kamchatsky. The sun is shining (24/7) and not a penguin to be seen, and Skip believes the Norh East Passage is ice-free (sufficiently) to attempt it, so all aboard for a c 4250nm voyage from east to west across the top of Siberia, Russia and Norway to Tromsoe!
Race #1779
INFOby brainaid.de
Pelagic 77 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: HLAT - SYC
Race starts: Jul 18th 19:00 Registration Open!

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

Cowes to St Malo TIMED Race 2024

Organized by the Royal Ocean Racing Club since 1929, the Cowes to St Malo Race is a true RORC Classic. Starting from the Royal Yacht Squadron Line, Cowes, IOW, a magnificent spectacle can be watched from The Parade, Cowes. The Cowes to St Malo Race is part of the RORC Season’s Points Championship, the world’s largest offshore racing series. Dating back to 1906, the Cowes to St Malo Race precedes all of the world’s famous races including the Fastnet Race. This is a TIMEDrace, so you may RE-REGISTER HERE to try again, after finishing a run. You will have 13 days and 11 hours to show your skill and decision making after the race opens.
Race #1828
INFOby brainaid.de
TP-52 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
TRQ3 - TRCH - SUPSOL - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Saturday,
27 July at 23:00 UTC
Race starts: Jul 14th 12:00 Registration Open!

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

Lake Ontario 300 Challenge 2024

Lake Ontario Offshore Racing (LOOR) welcomes Sailonline to a second race of their annual series, this time as hosts of the virtual LO300. As the name implies, the LO300 is a 300nm offshore race across the length and breadth of Lake Ontario, from and back to Port Credit YC. Once again, as is our wont on Lake Ontario, a fleet of Beneteau First 36.7s is being made available to virtual racers. There is an overall prize for the SOLer who best bosses Lake Ontario over the two races hosted on SOL, this 300 and the Susan Hood raced back in May; so let the competition be fierce!
Race #1805
INFOby brainaid.de
First 36.7 PARTICULARS
NAM_AWIP WX Updates:
0245 / 0845 / 1445 / 2045
Ranking: LOOR - SYC
Race starts: Jul 13th 15:10 Registration Open!

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

SSANZ Triple Series 2024 - Race 1

Welcome once again to our online buddied Short-handed Sailing Association of New Zealand brilliant long-standing SSANZ Triple Series for two-handed yachts on the waters of the Hauraki Gulf, sponsored this year by Lewmar Marine. Commencing with a c 46nm quick dash out to Motuora Island via The Haystack and home, we will as always compete in virtual Young88s, against the real-life fleet of the members of the ever-Young 88 Association!!
Race #1823
INFO by brainaid.de
Young 88 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SSANZ - SYC
Race starts: Jul 12th 21:15 Registration Open!

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

Tall Ships Races 2024 - Tallinn to Turku

Welcome to the second of three virtual Tall Ships Races on the Baltic Sea which are concurrently being organized in-real-life Sail Training International . This second race is from Tallinn, Estonia to Turku, Finland; circa 150nm in Sailonline’s stately Full Rigger.
NOTE: Starts and Finishes in tall ships racing are always offshore to avoid conflict with shipping and shipping lanes.
Race #1812
INFO by brainaid.de
Full Rigger PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: TS - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Friday,
July 19 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Jul 11th 14:00 Registration Closed

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

Southampton to Punta del Este 2024

Sailonline is delighted to offer our sailors a 'reversed' Atlantic ocean race. As the RTW championship Atlantic part takes a detour to the Bahamas, we will offer you a reversed course as we will not do the 'usual' leg this year either. It is the July edition of this year's Ocean Championship. Our boat is the OD_65v3.
PRIZE: SMPF
Race# 1820
INFO from brainaid.de
OD65 PARTICULARS
WX updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: OCQ3 - OCCH - SUPSOL - SYC
Race starts: Jul 01st 11:00 Registration Closed

▶ Flash

GO TO RACE

Go to race archive

SYC Ranking

View full list

Series

Mobile Client

SYC members have the benefit of access to our mobile/lightweight web client!

The mobile client