Facebook

Login

Support Sailonline

If you haven't already - join the SAILONLINE YACHT CLUB!

Please also consider making a donation - all amounts are greatly appreciated!

Board » Technical Support » More Digits

Posted by
Antonio (Tuze1)


Users avatar

Posts
18
Registered at
2008-12-12 02:43:48
2009-03-16 19:32:05 - More Digits
Hi Jakob,

Would it be possible to add a second decimal digit to Boat Speed and VMG ?

When racing these quick day races on slow boats the second decimal number will came handy.

So, format X.XX instead of X.X

Thanks a lot,
Antonio (Tuze1)

P.S.: as you know on the Mobile interface the Boat Speed and VMG return with format X.XX already.
Posted by
jakob


Users avatar

Posts
364
Registered at
2007-09-04 10:05:30
2009-03-16 20:03:28 - Re: More Digits
Hi
We will consider but we also want to avoid racing SOL becoming a mathematical exercise by giving too much data away... but I totally understand your question. no promise ;-)
...one of the guys behind the game...
Posted by
NZL_PaulR


Users avatar

Posts
311
Registered at
2008-07-22 12:21:30
2009-03-17 08:12:49 - Re: More Digits
Post annotated by Jeroen :
I agree Jakob.

I think the steering compass should only be in whole degrees, or even only every 5 degrees. Sailing any boat is hard, but in real sailing, it is only within 5 degrees that any helmsman can achieve after years of practice.

Further most marine steering compasses are only marked every 5 degrees in any case. (Plastimo Contest 101, Silva etc)

Perhaps even a random number combining wind strength x length of time within 10 degrees TWA x fetch could be used to provide a more realistic "wobbley" course.

So in an ocean race in heavy weather with 30+ knots TWS for days in the same TWA direction would produce a wobbley course with a random change in-accuracy of +/- 10 or 20 degrees.

By comparision, a gentle breeze of say 9 knots, in a steady direction for a few hours, close inshore with a small fetch would result in a better held course with only a +/- 2.5 degree random "wobble".

I think the TRUE WIND DIRECTION should also only be in whole degrees.

Who in real life can measure the wind direction that accurately on a moving yacht?

Same for Apparent Wind Angle.
Most digital instruments only show whole wind angles as degrees and analogue pointers are like a compass, accurate to +/- 2 degrees.

Amplified wind direction for close hauled / flat running do show more, but Virtual and IRL speeds are very slow. For SoL I think amplified decimal degrees (x.x) are just mathmatical display cleaverness that IRL is outside of practical sailing.

Therefore "decimal degrees (x.X)" are outside of SoL's stated goals, as per home page.

New helsmen will always "write their name in the ocean" when first they steer a yacht.



--- Last Edited by Jeroen Tiel at 2009-03-17 08:40:15 ---
If it breaks, it's not strong enough!
Posted by
NZL_PaulR


Users avatar

Posts
311
Registered at
2008-07-22 12:21:30
2009-03-17 08:13:26 - Re: More Digits
Post hidden by Jeroen :
Hi paul, I combined the two posts for you now.
Posted by
NZL_PaulR


Users avatar

Posts
311
Registered at
2008-07-22 12:21:30
2009-03-17 08:24:33 - Re: More Digits
Sorry Jeroen. I realised that and edited the "double" post into an extra comment about whole degrees only for TWD & TWA.

Can you show it now in its re-edited state? Thanks.
If it breaks, it's not strong enough!

Please login to post a reply.

Races

Next Race: 00d 00h 00m

Current Races:

Roslagen TIMED Sea Race

Welcome to quite possibly the most challenging TIMED race of the year. This month finds us in Sweden with lots of islands and narrow passages when we sail our Seacart 30 trimaran over the 86nm from Lidingö outside Stockholm to the beautiful coastal village of Öregrund. Consider yourself a winner if you complete the course nonstop! This is a TIMEDrace so you may RE-REGISTER HEREto try again after finishing a run. You will have 13 days and 11 hours to test your skill and decision making after the race opens.
Race #1945
INFO by brainaid.de
Seacart 30 Particulars
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
TRQ3 - TRCH - SUPSOL - SYC
Race starts: Sep 07th 12:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

The Vineyard Race 2025


For the first time since first hosting a virtual Vineyard in cooperation with Long Island's Stamford Yacht Club back in 2010, due to an operational calendaring error, Sailonline has missed the start of the real life race, the USA’s Labor Day weekend this year unusually falling across the turn of August. Silly SOL! So, a week late please join us anyway for a virtual rerun of Stamford’s iconic annual overnighter from their club line out the sound to Buzzard's Bay Light near Martha's Vineyard Island and back again, leaving Block Island to starboard. This year, Sailonline is making its magic MC 38 available to competitors, a race boat with a quirky polar that will require you to stay wide awake as you speed around the c 250 nm course, in rockstar style!
Race #1946
INFO by brainaid.de
MC 38 PARTICULARS
NAM_AWIP WX Updates:
0245 / 0845 / 1445 / 2045
Ranking: SYC
RACE CLOSE: Sunday,
September 14 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Sep 06th 17:05 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Great Nicobar to Marion Island 2025

The Adventure Continues – Leg #6 of the RWW Series.
We’re setting sail on the next stage of the RWW Series: a 4,400-nautical-mile passage from Great Nicobar to Marion Island. This demanding leg will test endurance, strategy, and seamanship at the highest level. As part of the 2025 Ocean Championship, this marks the ninth legendary challenge in the series — and one of the most exhilarating yet. The race will be contested aboard the Archer 78’ ketch, a vessel built to push sailors to their limits across the vast Indian Ocean.
PRIZE: SMPF
Race #1942
INFO by brainaid.de
Archer 78 PARTICULARS    
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230    
Ranking: OCQ3 - RWW - OCCH - SUPSOL - SYC
Race starts: Sep 01st 11:00 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Go to race archive

SYC Ranking

  1. Sailonline Yacht Club Member vida
  2. Sailonline Yacht Club Member WRmirekd
  3. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CriticalHippo
  4. Sailonline Yacht Club Member rafa
  5. Sailonline Yacht Club Member KaSToR
  6. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Kipper1258
  7. Sailonline Yacht Club Member BRENTGRAY
  8. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Sax747
  9. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Panpyc
  10. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CollegeFund

View full list

Series

Mobile Client

SYC members have the benefit of access to our mobile/lightweight web client!

The mobile client