Facebook

Login

Support Sailonline

If you haven't already - join the SAILONLINE YACHT CLUB!

Please also consider making a donation - all amounts are greatly appreciated!

Board » Flag Officers » Championships » 40' Series Championship 2017Q1 & Q2

Page: 1 2 Next

If, having read the Notice of Race (NOR) and the seven translations offered for the relevant paragraph of clause 2, you still have a question then please add it below and SRC will get back with an answer as soon as possible. Suggestions for improvement in any further Series are equally welcome.
Boat Type Choices:
20-01-2017 14:00:00 UTC
Class 40: 17
Ker 40: 18
SOTO 40: 16


BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
20-01-2017 18:40:00 UTC
Class 40: 20
Ker 40: 19
SOTO 40: 17

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
20-01-2017 19:30:00 UTC
Class 40: 22
Ker 40: 19
SOTO 40: 17

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
21-01-17 03:30 UTC
Class 40: 24
Ker 40: 21
SOTO 40: 20

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
21-01-17 14:50 UTC
Class 40: 28
Ker 40: 23
SOTO 40: 22

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
22-01-17 9:45 UTC
Class 40: 32
Ker 40: 32
SOTO 40: 26

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
22-01-17 20:50 UTC
Class 40: 46
Ker 40: 44
SOTO 40: 33

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
23-01-17 05:30 UTC
Class 40: 53
Ker 40: 52
SOTO 40: 40

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
23-01-17 09:55 UTC
Class 40: 85
Ker 40: 56
SOTO 40: 43


--- Last Edited by Bimmer at 2017-01-23 10:20:03 ---
Spin of a three-sided coin, eh????
If it breaks, it's not strong enough--if it doesn't, it's too heavy.
Is there any real reason to run the full series?

Strategy A
Sardinia - SOTO
Hebrides - SOTO

Strategy B
Sardinia - SOTO
Hebrides - DNS

The second option keeps the SOTO available for the full series, especially the finale.
By not racing one of the races you give others a potential bonus point (because they automatically beat you in that race).

There's more going on that choosing the fastest boat available. As javakeda rightly remarked in his solfans post, there is some game theory involved. You can't pick the winning boat every time (otherwise your strategy would be clear), so when you pick your boat you'll have to consider how many people are going to beat you, which depends on what boat types the others choose.

Possible strategy:
- When you're fast, go with the popular choice: If the popular boat is the fastest, you'll win. If the popular boat is not the fastest, you'll have minimal losses while still having the fast boat available.
- When you're slow, go with the unpopular choice: If your boat is the fastest, you'll have a good chance beating the majority in their slower boats. When your boat is not the fastest (meaning most people chose a faster boat), you would be at the back of the fleet anyway, so better take a little more loss by sailing a slower boat while still having the fast boat available for later.

But because there are 3 boats, it gets a little more complicated. And because which boat is fastest may depend on the race conditions, all gets a whole lot more complicated...

____________
disclaimer: I'm not really experienced with game theory, this strategy will probably not be optimal (even if the reasoning may seem sound). For one, when everyone uses this strategy it doesn't work anymore :)

--- Last Edited by kroppyer at 2017-01-25 03:12:56 ---
Clause 2 of the NOR has been rephrased to address a query raised to SRC during race 1 for when a skipper registers for less than the full six race Series.
This clarification simply relieves such a skipper of using each design once whilst retaining the existing limitation of not using one design more than twice.

--- Last Edited by Go4iT at 2017-01-27 16:16:29 ---
Here are tables with results from first 4 40' Series races, for analysis purpose only.

The ONLY OFFICIAL ranking is one on SOL page.

Reasons of differences may be:
- all boats included, not just SYC Members
- in a single race, DNF boats are ranked according DTF and are all placed before DNS boats.
- in a single race, all DNS boats get same PTS, #FIN+#DNF+1
- in races 3 and 4 all DSQ boats have been removed from ranking, but also from num of contributed, so DNC PTS are lower

Initially, in Series tab boats are ranked by Series PTS and in Races tab by names. You can rearange this by any column you like, just click on drop-down arrow next to column name and chose sort direction.

To distinct if a single boat type is used twice, ones or not at all in Series so far, in Series ranking by boat type 1000 is added to Type PTS for only one race and 2000 means that Type wasn't use by skipper in first 4 races. (For DSQ boats, Series Type PTS are calculated wrong, to-be-corrected in next table...

Hope you find this interesting,
all questions, suggestions and corrections are welcome :-)

--- Last Edited by SimeMali at 2017-05-05 20:04:14 ---
Ibis redibis numquam in mare peribis
Attachments
As above, after 5 races.
Hope DSQ issue solved.
Still place for improvement, will be better for next 40' Series...

--- Last Edited by SimeMali at 2017-06-20 23:39:21 ---
Ibis redibis numquam in mare peribis
Attachments
Good morning SimeMali and all.

Very well done this race log and stats. Thank you and, looking forward to read the sixth report.

A quick note.
The only boat that didn't won any race (race #6 - 2017 included) is the SOTO 40.

For obvious reasons, IMO SRC should consider an alternative to this boat and/or extending the actual 40' fleet.


Big Hug
João/psail
Sail Fair.
SRC would welcome suggestions of other racing 40' boats that might be considered for the 40' Series championship as we go forward into 2018. Hopefully this six month advance notice will give our polar wizards enough time to submit suggestions for when SRC starts to consider the format for 2018 (that will be in early 2017Q4, i.e. September 2017.)

Page: 1 2 Next

Please login to post a reply.

Races

Next Race: 00d 00h 00m


Current Races:

Koshiki PYOC Sprint 2025


For the first time since 2017 we return to the islands and shima’s offshore Nagasaki, Japan. This time our crafts of choice are X-35’s. Just 23nm in a straight line but choose your course wisely.
Race 1954
INFO by brainaid.de
X-35 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
SPRQ3 - SPRCH - SUPSOL – SYC
Race starts: Sep 20th 15:00 Registration will open soon
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Silverrudder 2025


Ahoy, SOLers! Get ready for the epic Silver Rudder – Challenge of the Sea! This 125nm single-handed race around Denmark’s island of Funen is back—shallow waters, narrow straits, and shifting winds await. This year, we trade up to our single-handed X-99s—can you master their power where precision counts most? It’s the world’s largest solo regatta, and your virtual helm is calling! Chart your course, trust your instincts, and race for glory in this ultimate test of seamanship!

It is imperative that you read AND understand these special Starting Conditions for SILVERRUDDER 2025:
Starting Conditions!!

Race #1948
INFO by brainaid.de
X-99 Single-handed PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC
Race starts: Sep 19th 09:00 Registration Open!

▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Rome to Tripoli 2025


The next race in the ARCH series will take us almost straight from Rome to Tripoli. But don't expect this 550nm race to be an easy one. The Mediterranean always offers some surprises. So let's prepare your Lagoon 55 with due care and... Fair Winds.
Race #1943
INFO from brainaid.de
Lagoon 55 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
ARQ3 - ARCH - SUPSOL – SYC
Race starts: Sep 15th 17:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Carib Rum Run 2025

Welcome to the Caribbean and Sailonline’s legendary Carib Rum Run! This year we trade tall ships for pure speed as we race our sleek Santa Cruz 70s on a 1759nm slalom through the rum islands. Yer mission: plunder barrels from the region’s finest distilleries and deliver ‘em to the rum-thirsty sands of Cancun, Mexico. Finish on or before International Talk Like a Pirate Day, 19 September, to etch yer name in legend! Join SYC before race end and ye scallywags can disguise yer boat with a pirate name for this race only! Hoist the sails, sharpen yer cutlasses—the rum run awaits!
Race #1944
INFO by brainaid.de
Santa Cruz 70 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC
Race starts: Sep 15th 00:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Roslagen TIMED Sea Race

Welcome to quite possibly the most challenging TIMED race of the year. This month finds us in Sweden with lots of islands and narrow passages when we sail our Seacart 30 trimaran over the 86nm from Lidingö outside Stockholm to the beautiful coastal village of Öregrund. Consider yourself a winner if you complete the course nonstop! This is a TIMEDrace so you may RE-REGISTER HEREto try again after finishing a run. You will have 13 days and 11 hours to test your skill and decision making after the race opens.
Race #1945
INFO by brainaid.de
Seacart 30 Particulars
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking:
TRQ3 - TRCH - SUPSOL - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Saturday,
20 September at 23:00 UTC
Race starts: Sep 07th 12:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Great Nicobar to Marion Island 2025

The Adventure Continues – Leg #6 of the RWW Series.
We’re setting sail on the next stage of the RWW Series: a 4,400-nautical-mile passage from Great Nicobar to Marion Island. This demanding leg will test endurance, strategy, and seamanship at the highest level. As part of the 2025 Ocean Championship, this marks the ninth legendary challenge in the series — and one of the most exhilarating yet. The race will be contested aboard the Archer 78’ ketch, a vessel built to push sailors to their limits across the vast Indian Ocean.
PRIZE: SMPF
Race #1942
INFO by brainaid.de
Archer 78 PARTICULARS    
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230    
Ranking: OCQ3 - RWW - OCCH - SUPSOL - SYC
RACE CLOSE: Thursday,
September 25 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Sep 01st 11:00 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Go to race archive

SYC Ranking

  1. Sailonline Yacht Club Member vida
  2. Sailonline Yacht Club Member WRmirekd
  3. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CriticalHippo
  4. Sailonline Yacht Club Member rafa
  5. Sailonline Yacht Club Member KaSToR
  6. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Kipper1258
  7. Sailonline Yacht Club Member BRENTGRAY
  8. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Sax747
  9. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Panpyc
  10. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CollegeFund

View full list

Series

Mobile Client

SYC members have the benefit of access to our mobile/lightweight web client!

The mobile client