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If, having read the Notice of Race (NOR) and the seven translations offered for the relevant paragraph of clause 2, you still have a question then please add it below and SRC will get back with an answer as soon as possible. Suggestions for improvement in any further Series are equally welcome.
Boat Type Choices:
20-01-2017 14:00:00 UTC
Class 40: 17
Ker 40: 18
SOTO 40: 16


BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
20-01-2017 18:40:00 UTC
Class 40: 20
Ker 40: 19
SOTO 40: 17

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
20-01-2017 19:30:00 UTC
Class 40: 22
Ker 40: 19
SOTO 40: 17

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
21-01-17 03:30 UTC
Class 40: 24
Ker 40: 21
SOTO 40: 20

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
21-01-17 14:50 UTC
Class 40: 28
Ker 40: 23
SOTO 40: 22

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
22-01-17 9:45 UTC
Class 40: 32
Ker 40: 32
SOTO 40: 26

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
22-01-17 20:50 UTC
Class 40: 46
Ker 40: 44
SOTO 40: 33

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
23-01-17 05:30 UTC
Class 40: 53
Ker 40: 52
SOTO 40: 40

BOAT TYPE CHOICES:
23-01-17 09:55 UTC
Class 40: 85
Ker 40: 56
SOTO 40: 43


--- Last Edited by Bimmer at 2017-01-23 10:20:03 ---
Spin of a three-sided coin, eh????
If it breaks, it's not strong enough--if it doesn't, it's too heavy.
Is there any real reason to run the full series?

Strategy A
Sardinia - SOTO
Hebrides - SOTO

Strategy B
Sardinia - SOTO
Hebrides - DNS

The second option keeps the SOTO available for the full series, especially the finale.
By not racing one of the races you give others a potential bonus point (because they automatically beat you in that race).

There's more going on that choosing the fastest boat available. As javakeda rightly remarked in his solfans post, there is some game theory involved. You can't pick the winning boat every time (otherwise your strategy would be clear), so when you pick your boat you'll have to consider how many people are going to beat you, which depends on what boat types the others choose.

Possible strategy:
- When you're fast, go with the popular choice: If the popular boat is the fastest, you'll win. If the popular boat is not the fastest, you'll have minimal losses while still having the fast boat available.
- When you're slow, go with the unpopular choice: If your boat is the fastest, you'll have a good chance beating the majority in their slower boats. When your boat is not the fastest (meaning most people chose a faster boat), you would be at the back of the fleet anyway, so better take a little more loss by sailing a slower boat while still having the fast boat available for later.

But because there are 3 boats, it gets a little more complicated. And because which boat is fastest may depend on the race conditions, all gets a whole lot more complicated...

____________
disclaimer: I'm not really experienced with game theory, this strategy will probably not be optimal (even if the reasoning may seem sound). For one, when everyone uses this strategy it doesn't work anymore :)

--- Last Edited by kroppyer at 2017-01-25 03:12:56 ---
Clause 2 of the NOR has been rephrased to address a query raised to SRC during race 1 for when a skipper registers for less than the full six race Series.
This clarification simply relieves such a skipper of using each design once whilst retaining the existing limitation of not using one design more than twice.

--- Last Edited by Go4iT at 2017-01-27 16:16:29 ---
Here are tables with results from first 4 40' Series races, for analysis purpose only.

The ONLY OFFICIAL ranking is one on SOL page.

Reasons of differences may be:
- all boats included, not just SYC Members
- in a single race, DNF boats are ranked according DTF and are all placed before DNS boats.
- in a single race, all DNS boats get same PTS, #FIN+#DNF+1
- in races 3 and 4 all DSQ boats have been removed from ranking, but also from num of contributed, so DNC PTS are lower

Initially, in Series tab boats are ranked by Series PTS and in Races tab by names. You can rearange this by any column you like, just click on drop-down arrow next to column name and chose sort direction.

To distinct if a single boat type is used twice, ones or not at all in Series so far, in Series ranking by boat type 1000 is added to Type PTS for only one race and 2000 means that Type wasn't use by skipper in first 4 races. (For DSQ boats, Series Type PTS are calculated wrong, to-be-corrected in next table...

Hope you find this interesting,
all questions, suggestions and corrections are welcome :-)

--- Last Edited by SimeMali at 2017-05-05 20:04:14 ---
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As above, after 5 races.
Hope DSQ issue solved.
Still place for improvement, will be better for next 40' Series...

--- Last Edited by SimeMali at 2017-06-20 23:39:21 ---
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Good morning SimeMali and all.

Very well done this race log and stats. Thank you and, looking forward to read the sixth report.

A quick note.
The only boat that didn't won any race (race #6 - 2017 included) is the SOTO 40.

For obvious reasons, IMO SRC should consider an alternative to this boat and/or extending the actual 40' fleet.


Big Hug
João/psail
Sail Fair.
SRC would welcome suggestions of other racing 40' boats that might be considered for the 40' Series championship as we go forward into 2018. Hopefully this six month advance notice will give our polar wizards enough time to submit suggestions for when SRC starts to consider the format for 2018 (that will be in early 2017Q4, i.e. September 2017.)

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